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Re:Ruth Bader Ginsburg has died by nerdponx on Friday September 18, 2020 @08:36PM (#24523503)
Democrats have popular support for their policies but cannot for the life of them think strategically.

You think they don't understand this stuff? Democrats have been deliberately "failing" to get shit done for 20 years. They keep holding out progressive and populist policies, tantalizingly close to enacting meaningful change -- but nope, somehow it always seems to be a matter of political strategy, badly run campaigns, and bad messaging that derails things.

Surely the Republicans haven't somehow had the better political strategists for decades. They aren't always better funded and they aren't always better organized. And certainly they don't have access to some kind of magic politics potion that the Democrats lack.

The only plausible scenario that I can see is that the Democratic party leadership has no interest in actually getting policy enacted, as long as they keep their cozy niche in power. Another 4 years of Trump will help them do very well in the 2022 midterms, and it will help keep their friends at the NYT, CNN, and MSNBC in business.

It would also explain why they hated Sanders and the DSA candidates so much. Liberals (not to mention leftists) who actually wanted to take power at the national level and actually do something? That would fuck up the whole game.

Basically you'd have to show me some actual evidence that Democratic party leadership actually wants to do anything other than campaign on a progressive platform and consistently almost-win. The whole thing seems worked to me.

Re:Ruth Bader Ginsburg has died by bscphil on Friday September 18, 2020 @08:55PM (#24523705)
I don't think you need anything that conspiratorial, it's not that centrist Democrats really don't want to get anything done, it's just that they really are basically okay with the current neoliberal consensus.
Re:Ruth Bader Ginsburg has died by shanhaiguan on Friday September 18, 2020 @09:37PM (#24524039)
What's the distinction?
Re:Ruth Bader Ginsburg has died by bscphil on Friday September 18, 2020 @11:34PM (#24524750)
Well, one is the claim that Democrats don't get anything done because they have a secret commitment to keep things the way they are so that voters have a reason to come back to the polls for them, and I'm saying maybe the reason is simply that Democrats are mostly fine with the way things are. Maybe your point is that this is a distinction without a difference, which I guess I'd mostly have to agree with.
Re:Ruth Bader Ginsburg has died by manquer on Saturday September 19, 2020 @01:44AM (#24525437)
Doing those changes is also against their interest, making them as hypocritical as republicans when they talk policy.
Re:Ruth Bader Ginsburg has died by nerdponx on Saturday September 19, 2020 @09:11AM (#24527187)
The difference is that it goes beyond being okay with a policy consensus. The current presidency is an exercise is dismantling the checks and balances in the US government and an experiment in pushing the limits of propaganda and keeping the public complacent in the face of crimes committed against them by their government.

For example, they had to have known that McConnell would kill the Trump impeachment. But they went ahead with it anyway. The only explanation I can see for this is that they wanted to somehow signal their opposition to Trump with their core voter base, while wasting and effectively discrediting the usefulness of a last-resort tool for asserting their authority.

And what is Biden campaigning on? What is his campaign even doing [0]? Where are the attack ads branding Trump as an anti-American grifter? This feels like 2016 all over again, except with the added danger that we already know how dangerous Trump is, and if he wins again he'll have nothing to lose -- and his handlers in the halls of power will take full advantage of it. They know they are ruining America and they simply don't care, they'll just run to the bunker when shit gets bad for normal people [1].

[0]: https://sirota.substack.com/p/where-is-bidens-ground-game

[1]: https://www.forbes.com/sites/jimdobson/2020/03/27/billionair...

Re:Ruth Bader Ginsburg has died by pm90 on Friday September 18, 2020 @08:56PM (#24523716)
This kind of thinking assumes that the ruling party can unilaterally make policy changes, which is not possible in the American system currently (e.g. fillibuster).

w.r.t Sanders: he lost in a small d democratic primary. It wasn't the leadership: it was the voters that chose Biden over Sanders.