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Re:US bans WeChat, TikTok from app stores, threatens shutdowns by bmitc on Friday September 18, 2020 @04:59PM (#24521836)
China bans WhatsApp. The U.S. bans WeChat. Great, no I have no official app besides good old text and phone to communicate with my fiancée who is still banned from reentering the U.S. despite still having a job here.

The U.S. has simply become an authoritarian state of a different color. My fiancée is prevented from returning and we are prevented from using our primary communication method simply because the so-called president wants to personally gain from these actions (i.e., swindle a re-election).

And what am I supposed to use to pay for things when I visit China now if WeChat is removed from AppStores?

Freedom my ass. Facebook, Google, and the others all collect the same if not more data than these apps, and those companies have shown time and again they do not have the American people’s best interests at heart and abuse the data collection and their power. So what are we doing here?

Instead, I suspect there was collusion between Facebook and Trump’s cronies for them to have released Instagram Reels when they did.

Re:US bans WeChat, TikTok from app stores, threatens shutdowns by JCharante on Saturday September 19, 2020 @10:26AM (#24527642)
> China bans WhatsApp. The U.S. bans WeChat. Great, no I have no official app besides good old text and phone to communicate with my fiancée who is still banned from reentering the U.S. despite still having a job here.

FYIW you can use HelloTalk to talk / call each other, as they need to censor their users so that the ones interested in learning Chinese can talk to the much larger mainlander population that's learning English.

Also I'm pretty sure that LinkedIn operates in China. The messaging system is decent with even support for group chats. I'm just not sure if DMs are allowed if one party is a foreigner and one isn't.

Re:US bans WeChat, TikTok from app stores, threatens shutdowns by martin__ on Friday September 18, 2020 @05:19PM (#24521972)
I thought the border restriction was just about having been in China in the last 14 days. Couldn't she get back into the US if she went to a different country first for 14 days?
Re:US bans WeChat, TikTok from app stores, threatens shutdowns by bmitc on Friday September 18, 2020 @05:50PM (#24522236)
No. The U.S. refuses to even process visas. Early on, the U.S. initially held her passport (a foreign one at that!) for over a month, preventing travel to countries she had valid visas to. When she eventually did once the passport was returned, the U.S. canceled her appointment, forcing travel back to China. Such foreign visas have now expired. The U.S. continues to allow appointments to be made at embassies and consulates and then cancels them right before. She actually falls into one of the conditional allowances that should get her back, based upon lawsuits from large employers, but the U.S. is not keeping appointments and not processing visas. So whatever they claim is allowed (which is not much), they are blocking that and more on a procedural level, just like they were doing since January before any bans were even in place. They don’t care.

H1Bs and others (at least from China) are banned at a minimum until January 2021.

Re:US bans WeChat, TikTok from app stores, threatens shutdowns by martin__ on Friday September 18, 2020 @06:41PM (#24522549)
That’s rough.

We are in a similar situation. She’s got a tourist visa though, and while we think it would technically be possible for her to enter the US, we’re kind of afraid to try.

Re:US bans WeChat, TikTok from app stores, threatens shutdowns by kinkrtyavimoodh on Friday September 18, 2020 @05:57PM (#24522284)
> because the so-called president wants to personally gain from these actions

I sympathize with your wife's predicament (I know people stuck in similar situations) but he is not the 'so-called' president. He is a duly elected leader of the American people. Perhaps this type of obnoxious attitude by us liberals towards half the country is what caused this mess to happen in the first place.