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Re:US bans WeChat, TikTok from app stores, threatens shutdowns by ericmay on Friday September 18, 2020 @02:18PM (#24520106)
Yea but if the citizens of the US don't like it they can call on their representatives to introduce a bill limiting that power or whatnot. The president also theoretically has the power to just unilaterally start a war or even drop a nuclear bomb on another country. But this isn't a Trump issue, we've increasingly turned to look at the president as the government instead of elected representatives.

In an ideal scenario, you'd know who your state senators are, and your district representative, and when it comes to matters of federal government you go straight to them and then they vote on your behalf.

This of course means even more importantly you should know your state representatives, mayor, etc. and be active in the politics of your own community.

But instead we're lazy so we just want the president to be a dictator instead of safeguarding our republic.

Re:US bans WeChat, TikTok from app stores, threatens shutdowns by mcgt on Friday September 18, 2020 @02:38PM (#24520369)
>But instead we're lazy so we just want the president to be a dictator instead of safeguarding our republic.

Funny. I wrote my senator months ago about that encryption bill going around then. Just got a canned response back today, about how law enforcement should be able to access encrypted nformation, etc.

Poetically waxing about the effects of "writing your reps" is bullshit when they are entrenched with one another and, as you said, most Americans don't care enough to do it.

Maybe a better solution would be for the US to balkanize and allow localization to be more effective. Maybe a national identity more akin to the diverse regions of the US would be more like what you're describing.

Re:US bans WeChat, TikTok from app stores, threatens shutdowns by frenchy on Friday September 18, 2020 @02:50PM (#24520534)
Not American, but we have a similar situation here, just with less political extremism.

I think a part of this is that many of the issues that are important to techies are either unimportant to most voters, or the voters don't understand them enough for form a good opinion. When an representative is representing hundreds of thousands of people, it's not really surprising that they ignore feedback on issues that most people don't care about.

Balkanization might help, but many states have been doing the exact opposite of that for the last 200 years because there's a lot of benefit to having a common set of laws and unregulated trade & travel over a large region.

Re:US bans WeChat, TikTok from app stores, threatens shutdowns by ericmay on Friday September 18, 2020 @03:40PM (#24521062)
> Funny. I wrote my senator months ago about that encryption bill going around then. Just got a canned response back today, about how law enforcement should be able to access encrypted information, etc.

So give up then? Idk what you want me to tell you. I'd rather people just not even complain about anything if they're so disillusioned with the government that they think they are powerless, why even care about any problems at all?

> Maybe a better solution would be for the US to balkanize and allow localization to be more effective. Maybe a national identity more akin to the diverse regions of the US would be more like what you're describing.

I don't disagree, actually. Local government governs best. You'll see largely the most successful governments are have smaller populations, often times more homogenous (not necessarily race, but more so culture), and I'm not sure if it's a factor but I believe population density plays a role.

Re:US bans WeChat, TikTok from app stores, threatens shutdowns by jmeister on Friday September 18, 2020 @02:47PM (#24520493)
Reg. balkanisation: there are already successful examples of Belgium and Canada. I think the reason it’s never discussed is that it can easily snowball into full fledged secession.
Re:US bans WeChat, TikTok from app stores, threatens shutdowns by jmoss20 on Friday September 18, 2020 @02:40PM (#24520406)
> The president also theoretically has the power to just unilaterally start a war...

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"The Congress shall have Power . . . To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules conquering Captures on Land and Water;" -- US Constitution, Article I, 8.11

Re:US bans WeChat, TikTok from app stores, threatens shutdowns by samatman on Friday September 18, 2020 @02:52PM (#24520546)
Please don't be naive.

The workaround, for at least fifty years, has simply been for the President to start a war without going through the formality of declaring one.

Congress could probably put a stop to it after the fact. We don't know this for sure, because thus far they just rubber-stamp it. Military-industrial money flows into everyone's district, by design.

Re:US bans WeChat, TikTok from app stores, threatens shutdowns by detaro on Friday September 18, 2020 @02:46PM (#24520479)
Maybe the argument is that you don't need to declare a war to start one?