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Re:Giant Pacific Octopus by rikroots on Friday September 18, 2020 @12:38PM (#24518903)
I googled "why do octopuses die so young" and came up with this article: https://www.sciencealert.com/mother-octopus-senescence-death...

> The maturation of the reproductive organs appears to be driven by secretions from the optic gland. These same secretions, it seems, inactivate the digestive and salivary glands, which leads to the octopus starving to death.

> In 1977, researchers removed this gland and found that the octopus' mothering instincts disappeared. She abandoned her eggs, started feeding again, and went on to live a much longer life.

As a reproductive strategy for an (arguably) intelligent animal ... this makes me feel sad. However there's plenty of octopuses around so in evolutionary terms it's a strategy that works.

As for the males - and this is the point at which my anthropomorphic 'yuk' reflex goes into overdrive - they die soon after their first successful sexual encounter. Males store sperm in one of their arms. For some species, 'sex' involves detaching that arm and giving it to the female to keep for later use. Then they wander off and die. Possibly from disappointment.

Re:Giant Pacific Octopus by deanCommie on Saturday September 19, 2020 @12:10AM (#24524962)
I think octopuses are a good counter-example to the concept of Intelligent design.

edit: to clarify, they're MAGNIFICENT creatures, and are a testament to the unfeeling unemotional beauty of actual Evolution - it has no plan. It is random. It only works because of odds. That some traits get selected for more frequently ON AVERAGE.

Sometimes that can lead to some interesting places...octopus, platypus, narwals. Hell, most animals are RIDICULOUS when you get down close.

But this curse of the octopus's intelligence being severely artificially limited so they can't progress and evolve.

Maybe the meaning of life is for us to use our technology and medicine to help the Octopuses live long and fulfilling lives and put them on a path to continuing evolution and together the human and octopuses species are meant to conquer the galaxy.

Alas, in this dimension, we fucked up and destroyed their habitat instead.

Re:Giant Pacific Octopus by hakfoo on Saturday September 19, 2020 @02:48AM (#24525688)
You'd love Children of Ruin.
Re:Giant Pacific Octopus by Thlom on Friday September 18, 2020 @02:03PM (#24519933)
There's a Radiolab episode about this. An Octopus mother brooding her eggs for month on end and then dying just when the eggs hatched. Episode title is Octomom.
Re:Giant Pacific Octopus by kbenson on Friday September 18, 2020 @10:49PM (#24524491)
And that, people, is how you tell a joke on HN.
Re:Giant Pacific Octopus by watersb on Friday September 18, 2020 @07:37PM (#24522929)
How is this different from human reproductive cycle?

Asking for friend.

Re:Giant Pacific Octopus by ves on Friday September 18, 2020 @08:16PM (#24523271)
Har har.
Re:Giant Pacific Octopus by shard on Friday September 18, 2020 @06:56PM (#24522657)
Sounds like female octopus with the gland removed could be a good pet. It's like spaying a cat.
Re:Giant Pacific Octopus by sdbryan on Friday September 18, 2020 @07:16PM (#24522794)
megablast, you might have missed the possibility that it allows the octomom to not die immediately after tending the eggs.
Re:Giant Pacific Octopus by megablast on Friday September 18, 2020 @07:05PM (#24522717)
Sure, lets disable animals for your amusement.
Re:Giant Pacific Octopus by shard on Friday September 18, 2020 @07:19PM (#24522813)
I suppose it's true that spaying and neutering is technically disabling an animal. I guess not having pets would be the best solution for people who consider spay/neuter harmful. But for people who are okay with the idea of pets, and who do not wish to breed their pets, many find the control of breeding instincts and behavior helpful, not to mention the long term health benefits for the pets.
Re:Giant Pacific Octopus by swyx on Friday September 18, 2020 @12:57PM (#24519139)
i mean.. i feel for all my octopus brothers. i would too.
Re:Giant Pacific Octopus by pvaldes on Saturday September 19, 2020 @07:39AM (#24526740)
I think that sexual tentacles from males can regenerate, but I'm not sure at this moment.
Re:Giant Pacific Octopus by bmitc on Friday September 18, 2020 @11:43PM (#24524794)
Male octopuses will often be eaten by the female after copulating.
Re:Giant Pacific Octopus by blnqr on Friday September 18, 2020 @01:52PM (#24519797)
Only the good die young