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Re:Trump offered to pardon Assange if he provided source for... by logicchains on Friday September 18, 2020 @11:01AM (#24517621)
>Hmm, do we really want to open this conversation to making broad generalizations about groups based on small groups of extremists within it? Neither side wins in a conversation like that.

I'd argue it's still a better outcome than if only one side is allowed to make broad generalizations about groups based on small groups of extremists within it, while the other side is silenced.

Re:Trump offered to pardon Assange if he provided source for... by robertakarobin on Friday September 18, 2020 @11:11AM (#24517759)
I don't think either side is being silenced. Both sides equally like to accuse the other of:

- Ignoring "facts and logic"

- Suppressing free speech

- Being hateful

- Blindly following mainstream media

- Being agents of foreign influence

Re:Trump offered to pardon Assange if he provided source for... by logicchains on Friday September 18, 2020 @12:04PM (#24518484)
>I don't think either side is being silenced.

Did you see the part where the person calling all Trump supporters full of hate was upvoted while the comments I made highlighting some hateful acts by non-Trump-supporters was heavily downvoted? Maybe not literal silencing, but seems people here would definitely rather only hear one side of the story.

Re:Trump offered to pardon Assange if he provided source for... by robertakarobin on Friday September 18, 2020 @12:07PM (#24518525)
Or, perhaps, they just disagree with you?

https://xkcd.com/1357/

There is a tremendous difference between silencing, disagreeing with someone, and only listening to one side of the story.

Re:Trump offered to pardon Assange if he provided source for... by dguaraglia on Friday September 18, 2020 @11:13AM (#24517786)
Dude, the moment you realize whose side neo-Nazis are on, you really don’t want that argument.
Re:Trump offered to pardon Assange if he provided source for... by logicchains on Friday September 18, 2020 @12:08PM (#24518534)
So we musn't support anything that's also supported by Nazis? Then we should oppose vegetarianism and bans on smoking, because Hitler supported them?
Re:Trump offered to pardon Assange if he provided source for... by robertakarobin on Friday September 18, 2020 @12:26PM (#24518769)
Isn't this taking things to a logical extreme?
Re:Trump offered to pardon Assange if he provided source for... by dguaraglia on Monday September 21, 2020 @11:46AM (#24544733)
No, my point is exactly the opposite: choosing the worst possible examples of someone who supports X to argue that's the norm is bad thinking. If you want to play the 'broad generalization' game, then you have to be able to suck it up and admit that on one side of the argument we have neo-Nazis, so if you identify with that side you'll be called a neo-Nazi.