Re:Spotify reportedly fighting with employees about hosting ...
by radmuzom on Friday September 18, 2020 @05:53AM
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Funny that you and jakelazaroff above are getting downvoted. I have observed that lot of free speech advocates generally get annoyed if someone speaks the truth.
Re:Spotify reportedly fighting with employees about hosting ...
by spiralx on Monday September 21, 2020 @07:06AM
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This site has both a lot of the sort of people who "don't see race" and use that to downplay social issues, and people who (irrationally) insist in the primacy of rational thought and view speech as a consequence-free action. Don't expect good or nuanced discussion on the subject.
Re:Spotify reportedly fighting with employees about hosting ...
by reincarnate0x14 on Saturday September 19, 2020 @11:52PM
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What's funnier is that I'm not even strictly in disagreement with the notion that free expression is important, although I do deeply resent disingenuous attempts to shield an argument with a persecution complex.
At various times in the history of the US specifically, but analogues exist in most other places, you could have been fired or otherwise pariah'ed for:
Freely discussing the conditions and rights of laborers
Discussing political ideologies like communism
Discussing various sects of Christian belief
Discussing Non-Christian beliefs
Being for or against political popular movements
Being against police authority
Discussing or demonstrating opposition to wars
Simply being one of a set of ethnicities
Being, or discussing, being gay
Being, or discussing, being an atheist
While I personally think that Joe Rogan's podcast, the conversations of a pedestrian comedian and self-professed moron who sometimes lands interesting guests, is a strange hill for Spotify to be fighting on, there was no time in US history that such "unfortunate and unacceptable" events weren't happening.
McCarthyism and the blacklisting of many otherwise wealthy entertainers is usually the textbook case of this and that is within living memory. This sickness is rooted deeply in American culture, and we only think there was some reprieve due to the academic freedoms and immense prosperity of a post-WW2 boom era that ended 40 years ago, followed by a brief period of online semi-anonymous expression that lasted until around 2000 when the great masses finally found it and brought it back to the baseline awfulness of the rest of the culture