Re:TSMC’s Wafer Prices Revealed: 300mm Wafer at 5nm Is Nearl...
by buryat on Thursday September 17, 2020 @08:05PM
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I'm surprised, that's pretty cheap
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Re:TSMC’s Wafer Prices Revealed: 300mm Wafer at 5nm Is Nearl...
by csboyer on Thursday September 17, 2020 @08:48PM
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Paying for the masks is the big upfront cost - into the $5 to $10s of millions depending on the process node.
Re:TSMC’s Wafer Prices Revealed: 300mm Wafer at 5nm Is Nearl...
by lizknope on Thursday September 17, 2020 @09:29PM
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Someone told me around $30 million for a 14 layer chip in TSMC 5nm but I couldn't get real confirmation.
Re:TSMC’s Wafer Prices Revealed: 300mm Wafer at 5nm Is Nearl...
by csboyer on Thursday September 17, 2020 @09:51PM
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No one who really knows can say due to NDAs. We just know rough order of magnitude price.
I can see $30 million for 5nm. With material costs approaching $20 to $30 a chip for mobile SoCs, you need quite a high sales price and volume for the economics to work.
Re:TSMC’s Wafer Prices Revealed: 300mm Wafer at 5nm Is Nearl...
by baybal2 on Friday September 18, 2020 @09:10AM
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14 layers is a suspiciously small number for 5nm.
It will be a big surprise if multiple patterning elimination can reduce the layer count so dramatically.
Re:TSMC’s Wafer Prices Revealed: 300mm Wafer at 5nm Is Nearl...
by KSS42 on Friday September 18, 2020 @02:29PM
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14 metal layers.
Re:TSMC’s Wafer Prices Revealed: 300mm Wafer at 5nm Is Nearl...
by gruez on Thursday September 17, 2020 @08:13PM
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I assume it's bulk prices, requiring thousands/tens of thousands of wafers of commitment.
Re:TSMC’s Wafer Prices Revealed: 300mm Wafer at 5nm Is Nearl...
by ComputerGuru on Friday September 18, 2020 @01:41AM
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I don’t think they need to require it - you’d be crazy otherwise because you have to pay the multimillion dollar cover charge (to make the masks).