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Re:Why is Apple acting like an asshole? by Razengan on Wednesday September 16, 2020 @11:07AM (#24493386)
> there is no - Add to homescreen dialog - Background sync - Proper push notifications

All of those sound like things that will be abused by the majority of developers the minute they are allowed to inflict them upon users, either willingly or commanded to by their overlords in the name of ""Engagement""

Re:Why is Apple acting like an asshole? by lern_too_spel on Wednesday September 16, 2020 @11:33AM (#24493648)
I have not seen these things abused yet. The user agent prevents it.
Re:Why is Apple acting like an asshole? by spideymans on Wednesday September 16, 2020 @01:54PM (#24495264)
There are already countless websites abusing the web notifications API to push spam to end users. You're probably savvy enough to effortlessly avoid it, but the average end user often is not. We can't keep ignoring the the UX issues with a lot of these web APIs if we want them to be successful. Users don't care to philosophize about the open web, they just want their shit to work. That's what Apple iOS is providing them, and they will continue flocking to iOS until they're presented with a better alternative.
Re:Why is Apple acting like an asshole? by lern_too_spel on Wednesday September 16, 2020 @10:58PM (#24500717)
Reasonable implementations let users easily block the notifications after receiving them. It doesn't require much savviness.
Re:Why is Apple acting like an asshole? by nemothekid on Wednesday September 16, 2020 @01:39PM (#24495077)
Of course you haven’t seen them abused yet, iOS doesn’t allow it. I remember developers abusing notifications in Android Cupcake.
Re:Why is Apple acting like an asshole? by lern_too_spel on Wednesday September 16, 2020 @10:53PM (#24500685)
I don't use iOS. I use only mobile and desktop OSes that allow these things. I still haven't seen them abused.
Re:Why is Apple acting like an asshole? by saagarjha on Wednesday September 16, 2020 @02:01PM (#24495353)
I really have no idea what you mean by your comment, but humorously enough user agents are frequently one of the most widely abused parts of the browser.
Re:Why is Apple acting like an asshole? by tick_tock_tick on Wednesday September 16, 2020 @02:14PM (#24495530)
The "User Agent" is the browser itself the header just how a "User Agent" identifies itself to the server. That language really only shows up in the RFCs though.