Re:Details on the Ham Radio Equipment Being Used on the ISS
by batsigner on Tuesday September 15, 2020 @09:00PM
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Nothing special about the noise floor, it's just the point where you can only transmit around one bit per second per hertz
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Re:Details on the Ham Radio Equipment Being Used on the ISS
by labawi on Wednesday September 16, 2020 @09:58AM
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From an information-theoretic POV, yes, you can squeeze information from less, but the definition I found is based on signal levels not transmission capacity, and it seems to have other notable consequences.
AFAICT it's around this point that you can't tell whether there is a transmission, unless you know what it looks like; tuning requires decoding and/or fancy math, not a spectrometer; communication works just fine (with proper transmission modes), but there are nontrivial practical consequences as you approach or go below the noise floor.
I wouldn't expect to see analog equipment operating below the noise floor.
Re:Details on the Ham Radio Equipment Being Used on the ISS
by giomasce on Wednesday September 16, 2020 @08:14AM
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Link to the proof? Or at least, does the theorem has a well-known name?
Re:Details on the Ham Radio Equipment Being Used on the ISS
by tripletao on Wednesday September 16, 2020 @08:28AM
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The Shannon–Hartley theorem. It assumes additive white Gaussian noise (which is a good model for most kinds of thermal-ish noise), and provides a bound on the channel capacity that practical codes closely approach.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shannon%E2%80%93Hartley_theore...