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Re:Apple Fitness+ by jacobwilliamroy on Tuesday September 15, 2020 @04:53PM (#24486583)
Apple owns your operating system, your hardware. It sells networking devices, printers, misc. peripherals. It offers service as software replacements, for email, file hosting, navigation, speech recognition. Apple has a marketplace for software. It has a marketplace for books. It has a marketplace for multimedia entertainment. It has its own tv. You can handcuff an apple device to your wrist, and let them own your watch, your voice, your fingerprints. Get your head out of the sand.
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Re:Apple Fitness+ by thrwn_frthr_awy on Tuesday September 15, 2020 @05:28PM (#24486899)
> It sells networking devices, printers

They do not.

> It has its own tv.

The do not

> your fingerprints

Fingerprints never leave the device or stored in iCloud

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Re:Apple Fitness+ by jacobwilliamroy on Tuesday September 15, 2020 @05:34PM (#24486972)
You're not paying attention

Apple NAS: https://www.walmart.com/ip/Apple-AirPort-Time-Capsule-2TB-St...

Apple 802.11ac wireless AP: https://www.priceblaze.com/me918ll-a-Apple-Network-Routers?r...

Apple TV: https://www.apple.com/apple-tv-4k/

I was wrong about printers though. They just have their own proprietary printer protocol in air print

And how do you know those biometrics stay on device? How do you know they will continue to stay on the device? It's not your kernel. It's THEIR kernel. They can do whatever they want.

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Re:Apple Fitness+ by rthille on Tuesday September 15, 2020 @06:58PM (#24487693)
You're not paying attention. Apple discontinued the Time Capsule and Airport product lines in 2018: https://www.macworld.com/article/3269361/apple-discontinues-... And a media streamer box isn't a TV
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Re:Apple Fitness+ by thrwn_frthr_awy on Tuesday September 15, 2020 @06:36PM (#24487525)
They no longer make networking devices. The one in your link discontinued for a few years.

And the Apple TV isn't actually a TV :/

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Re:Apple Fitness+ by jacobwilliamroy on Tuesday September 15, 2020 @06:49PM (#24487629)
It's worse than a TV. It's a multimedia streaming device where they can promote their own subscription based multimedia streaming platform over all others.
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Re:Apple Fitness+ by threeseed on Tuesday September 15, 2020 @08:34PM (#24488346)
This is nonsense.

I use an AppleTV every single day and their streaming offering is nothing more than an app that I have hidden at the bottom of the screen. At the top I have a dozen streaming apps e.g. Netflix, Youtube, Amazon Prime.

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Re:Apple Fitness+ by turdnagel on Tuesday September 15, 2020 @05:01PM (#24486665)
When you say "own your fingerprints" what do you mean? What does it mean to own my fingerprints, and how does Apple own them?
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Re:Apple Fitness+ by jacobwilliamroy on Tuesday September 15, 2020 @05:07PM (#24486710)
They collect our names and biometrics for multi-factor authentication.
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Re:Apple Fitness+ by jagged-chisel on Tuesday September 15, 2020 @07:48PM (#24488021)
Your fingerprints and face ID data never leave the device. There’s plenty of documentation about this.
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Re:Apple Fitness+ by turdnagel on Tuesday September 15, 2020 @07:58PM (#24488092)
Are you talking about on device authentication or iCloud authentication? The biometrics for unlocking are only stored on device. Your name is associated with your account, yes.

I can’t tell if you’re trolling? You also haven’t said what it means to “own” fingerprints.

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Re:Apple Fitness+ by zaroth on Tuesday September 15, 2020 @07:51PM (#24488038)
In fact they do not collect biometrics. Not even under the NSA’s definition of “collect”.
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