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Re:At JPMorgan, productivity falls for younger employees at ... by jimmytucson on Tuesday September 15, 2020 @12:30AM (#24477891)
This is what makes me so uncomfortable with hiring software developers. I don’t know how good of a job they’re doing, or what’s taking them so long, or whether another group of developers would do a better job faster.

If I hire painters, I can tell if they’re doing a good job by looking at it. I know what’s taking them so long. They’re using slower drying drywall compound, or they’re having to mask off because they’re not good with a brush.

There are fields of work where it’s easy to gauge productivity, but software development is not one of them.

Re:At JPMorgan, productivity falls for younger employees at ... by onion2k on Tuesday September 15, 2020 @03:27AM (#24478725)
If I hire painters, I can tell if they’re doing a good job by looking at it.

It's easy to make a job look good for a day, but on some jobs if you skip the prep work, lining, filling, priming, undercoat, additional coats, clearcoat, and finishing the paint job is going to look pretty bad after a year. You can't tell how good a painter is unless you know a bit about painting things.

The same is true of software. In order to know if a developer is productive you really need to know quite a lot about the domain they're writing software for.

Re:At JPMorgan, productivity falls for younger employees at ... by icelancer on Tuesday September 15, 2020 @12:33AM (#24477906)
>> There are fields of work where it’s easy to gauge productivity, but software development is not one of them.

I manage a team of developers / analysts and it's straightforward (though not always easy) to measure this over several six-week blocks of time for the team. It is not, however, easy to measure it for any single developer or analyst, and there's a lot of variance when you try to look any more granular than the team.

I suspect it's doable for small groups that work together. Or even larger groups. (I have no experience here.)

But for individuals? I agree. No shot.