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Re:Nvidia's Arm deal sparks quick backlash in chip industry by throwaway4good on Monday September 14, 2020 @07:18AM (#24468875)
Do you have any info on Huawei's rumoured own processor design?
Re:Nvidia's Arm deal sparks quick backlash in chip industry by bakuninsbart on Monday September 14, 2020 @07:35AM (#24468969)
So Huawei is a premium member of RISC-V International[1], and probably one of the drivers of their move to Switzerland. They repeatedly threatened to move to RISC-V [2], but so far, their semiconductor subsidiary always licensed from ARM.[3]

I personally expect some announcement to be made late this year or early 2021. Huawei in general waits very long before it announces products or services, perk of not being a publicly traded company. Just as an interesting example, they seem to be developing a programming language and want to release it early next year, but no public announcement of any kind has been made yet. [4]

[1] https://riscv.org/membership/members/

[2] http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/a/201908/23/WS5d5fe368a310cf3e3...

[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HiSilicon#Smartphone_applicati...

[4] https://cntechpost.com/2020/09/13/huawei-rumored-to-be-devel...

Re:Nvidia's Arm deal sparks quick backlash in chip industry by throwaway4good on Monday September 14, 2020 @07:58AM (#24469085)
Ok. So they seem to think that RISC-V is safe from US sanctions.
Re:Nvidia's Arm deal sparks quick backlash in chip industry by Aperocky on Monday September 14, 2020 @10:58AM (#24470923)
Open source does that for you.

You can't sanction public knowledge. The mere idea of such should be ridiculed.

Re:Nvidia's Arm deal sparks quick backlash in chip industry by blackrock on Monday September 14, 2020 @12:19PM (#24471946)
But open source still requires a license. And the company owning the license might be based in the USA.

Is it possible the USA government can say that this is open source and free for all to use, except for people in China.

For example, if Red Hat Fedora is open sourced, but Red Hat is a USA company. Then they will still be under USA jurisdiction.

Given all the lies and bullshit coming out of the current administration, I can actually see them doing this.

Re:Nvidia's Arm deal sparks quick backlash in chip industry by FullyFunctional on Tuesday September 15, 2020 @02:23AM (#24478397)
First, the RISC-V Consortium is an organization (now) based in Switzerland. Second, there is literally nothing anyone can do to stop you from making a RISC-V core, short of calling it "RISC-V". For that, you have to pass a few tests, but all trivial stuff for a serious contender.

On a related note, I don't think it's an accident that Apple almost completely avoids talking about "Arm" but instead calls it "Apple Silicon".

Re:Nvidia's Arm deal sparks quick backlash in chip industry by meroes on Monday September 14, 2020 @12:35PM (#24472125)
I think the difference is that China would just ignore it and still have all the access to the technology since it's open source already.
Re:Nvidia's Arm deal sparks quick backlash in chip industry by dv_dt on Monday September 14, 2020 @12:18PM (#24471927)
Not that the US gov't hasn't tried on multiple occasions...