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Re:ByteDance won't sell TikTok U.S. operations to Oracle or ... by ezconnect on Monday September 14, 2020 @06:07AM (#24468507)
What's unique about this is the US government is telling them to sell it to a US company. It would have been normal to just outright ban it for security reasons the sell it or get ban part is the scary part.
Re:ByteDance won't sell TikTok U.S. operations to Oracle or ... by tatersolid on Monday September 14, 2020 @06:18AM (#24468559)
> What's unique about this is the US government is telling them to sell it to a US company

This is exactly what China does to foreign companies who wish to operate in China. The US is simply pursuing a model of reciprocal trade protections and tariffs.

Re:ByteDance won't sell TikTok U.S. operations to Oracle or ... by SiempreViernes on Monday September 14, 2020 @06:44AM (#24468673)
The US is "simply" following the example set by a dictatorship you mean?
Re:ByteDance won't sell TikTok U.S. operations to Oracle or ... by manigandham on Monday September 14, 2020 @06:53AM (#24468732)
Yes, towards that dictatorship.
Re:ByteDance won't sell TikTok U.S. operations to Oracle or ... by mensetmanusman on Monday September 14, 2020 @10:16AM (#24470403)
Sometimes you have to mirror your opponent to show them they are being stupid?
Re:ByteDance won't sell TikTok U.S. operations to Oracle or ... by SiempreViernes on Monday September 14, 2020 @12:05PM (#24471763)
Ah yes, the "If you jump off a bridge I jump off a bridge" approach to teaching.
Re:ByteDance won't sell TikTok U.S. operations to Oracle or ... by mensetmanusman on Monday September 14, 2020 @01:26PM (#24472702)
Doubt that one could seriously argue banning tiktok is jumping off a bridge.
Re:ByteDance won't sell TikTok U.S. operations to Oracle or ... by compsciphd on Monday September 14, 2020 @06:21AM (#24468578)
how do you think US companies break into china?

the chinese government forces them to "sell" (i.e. "partner" where the partner is given significant concessions that would never happen without the chinese government's protection, including ownership over IP).

honestly, if one views the US in a trade war with china, then there is a concept of "national security" (in a wide view of the term, I'd agree not the traditional view in the US, but probably closer to how china views the term) to allowing chinese companies access to the US market that are not reciprocated in China.

heck, the fact that they want to "partner" is probably indicative of how the chinese view the issue. i.e. US companies have to have a chinese "partner" to enter china, so to do the same in the US, they seek out a US partner.

Re:ByteDance won't sell TikTok U.S. operations to Oracle or ... by ezconnect on Monday September 14, 2020 @11:06AM (#24471023)
At least you know the rules to play before joining their game, TikTok got famous and eating into their rivals like instagram and snapchat ad revenues and the rules got changed. It's like letting foreigners invest into your market and picking the winners and forcing them to give up their work.
Re:ByteDance won't sell TikTok U.S. operations to Oracle or ... by compsciphd on Monday September 14, 2020 @01:41PM (#24472867)
I'd agree with you, but do you think china doesn't behave this way?

an example might be https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/china-coronavirus-nation...

to an extent its a he-said/she-said, but if this were in the US, we would say "it's not a good look".

Re:ByteDance won't sell TikTok U.S. operations to Oracle or ... by ezconnect on Monday September 14, 2020 @11:11PM (#24477543)
All countries behave this way as long as the decision maker can survive politically. I am just surprise about the US doing it in a blatant way and its not even technology they are going after, just a niche social app. US did bomb Libya to submission when it nationalized its oil industry, I guess politics in the US is really just controlled by the business donors.