Re:The Hayworth-Miller 2019 Debate About Brain Preservation
by russfink on Sunday September 13, 2020 @12:57PM
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What if consciousness requires an active synapse loop to be maintained, kind of like a magnetic field, with little hysteresis eddies etc, but one that if it loses all power, it disappears forever?
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Re:The Hayworth-Miller 2019 Debate About Brain Preservation
by ogennadi on Sunday September 13, 2020 @01:08PM
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Hi @russfink. That can't be the case since, as mentioned in the debate, there are medical procedures [1] where a person's neural activity ceases and the patients recover their (long-term) memories
[1] https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/001346...
Re:The Hayworth-Miller 2019 Debate About Brain Preservation
by mlyle on Sunday September 13, 2020 @04:50PM
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This doesn't fix the philosophical issue, though. Is it the same person? Or did that thread of individual conscious perception disappear forever and was replaced by someone "new" who acts the same?
In the end, this is a philosophical discussion because consciousness is not something we can observe in a way to test and falsify hypotheses.
Re:The Hayworth-Miller 2019 Debate About Brain Preservation
by ralfd on Sunday September 13, 2020 @06:03PM
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Hm. The cessation of electrical activity is just that which is measured on scalp EEG; ie, we can only really be certain that the most superficial layers of cortex aren't firing and what we are measuring.
Re:The Hayworth-Miller 2019 Debate About Brain Preservation
by porejide on Sunday September 13, 2020 @09:51PM
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Very fair point. There are other examples that go beyond DHCA, though, and point clearly in the same direction. One example is that sometimes people suffer cardiac arrests and lose consciousness for minutes to hours 10.1016/j.resuscitation.2014.06.015. Coordinated electrical activity stops after a few minutes following cardiac arrest, but people can (rarely) be revived with their apparent memories and personality intact.
Re:The Hayworth-Miller 2019 Debate About Brain Preservation
by the8472 on Sunday September 13, 2020 @03:55PM
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ECT would be 100% deadly if that were the case.
Re:The Hayworth-Miller 2019 Debate About Brain Preservation
by Baeocystin on Sunday September 13, 2020 @03:36PM
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You should read Ted Chiang's Exhalation. Full text is here: https://www.lightspeedmagazine.com/fiction/exhalation/
It's a short story. A worthy, on-topic read, I promise!