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Re:Ask HN: What is a better approach to interviewing? by ChrisMarshallNY on Sunday September 13, 2020 @07:06AM (#24460041)
Yup, but it’s just plain dumb to ignore the ones that do.

I have a gigantic open-source portfolio[0]. I also go to great lengths to make sure that I’m a “known quantity” (like posting frequent exposition on fora like this one). I don’t feel that I have anything to hide. Everyone that has worked with me has found the experience enormously fulfilling.

It’s been quite jarring to see this ignored and treated with disbelief. That’s pretty much exactly the opposite reaction from the one that I would have, but I guess I’m out of touch with the way things are done, these days. I even talked to someone who told me about a friend that had invented some kind of machine learning candidate evaluation system, and relied on that, as opposed to human vetting.

One of my goals is to discourage people that wouldn’t want to work with me. I was a hiring manager for a fairly high-functioning, high-stakes team, and am quite aware of the value of making good hiring choices, which go well beyond simple expertise. Team dynamics are also very important.

I feel that getting a job as a result of misrepresentation is a big mistake, and a recipe for misery. So I don't hide my age, don’t pad my résumé, and make every effort to be as open as possible. If you don't want to work with me; fine. Let's not waste each others' time.

I have always sought to make it easy for people to figure me out. Since I live a fairly good life, and know my way around the playground, I feel that I'm a pretty good bet, but I have no problems if others think otherwise.

One of my favorite Twain quotes is "Let us so live that when we come to die, even the undertaker will be sorry."

[0] https://stackoverflow.com/story/chrismarshall

Re:Ask HN: What is a better approach to interviewing? by trengorilla on Monday September 14, 2020 @11:25AM (#24471255)
I don’t feel that I have anything to hide. Everyone that has worked with me has found the experience enormously fulfilling.

I think I just threw up in my mouth a little.

Re:Ask HN: What is a better approach to interviewing? by ChrisMarshallNY on Monday September 14, 2020 @01:49PM (#24473002)
Then you wouldn't like working with me. Now you know. Problem solved.
Re:Ask HN: What is a better approach to interviewing? by trengorilla on Tuesday September 15, 2020 @08:31AM (#24480461)
If you also act like a cock in person then definitely not. Even the most brilliant people in the world usually have the self awareness to not give themselves glowing reviews, perhaps you're great but have a social blind spot in that regard. If you consistently speak like that in person then many people would not like working with you and that would call your glowing self review into question.

Literally everyone? Ok :)

Re:Ask HN: What is a better approach to interviewing? by ChrisMarshallNY on Tuesday September 15, 2020 @08:42AM (#24480541)
I have no idea why you wrote that comment. You do realize that this isn't Reddit, right?
Re:Ask HN: What is a better approach to interviewing? by trengorilla on Tuesday September 15, 2020 @10:19AM (#24481438)
This is basically a sub reddit. I was just responding to you like I would in conversation, not sure what the medium has to do with it.
Re:Ask HN: What is a better approach to interviewing? by ChrisMarshallNY on Tuesday September 15, 2020 @10:36AM (#24481646)
Well, for me, you'll notice that I deliberately don't hide who I am. I deleted my last anonymous account many moons ago.

As such, I won't post stuff like you just did. It's uncouth and unprofessional. I consider this a professional environment. If you choose to look at it as a personal entertainment medium, then knock yourself out.

I'm a reformed troll. I used to be a right bastard. A great deal of my approach, these days, is an act of atonement. In fact, a great deal of my personal philosophy is based upon becoming a much more productive member of society, than I have been in the past.

I'm every bit as cynical as the next chap; more so, I'll bet. I regularly deal with some truly scary people, in my personal work on NPO stuff. I doubt there's a thing that you could say that would shock me.

It's also quite possible for very good people to exist in this world. I try to be one, myself. I know of many, many others. They are my heroes, and my models.

Please don't make the error of mistaking optimism, kindness, or politeness for weakness or stupidity. It's my experience that this can lead to...costly mistakes.

Re:Ask HN: What is a better approach to interviewing? by trengorilla on Tuesday September 15, 2020 @11:19AM (#24482179)
Please don't make the error of mistaking optimism, kindness, or politeness for weakness or stupidity.

My post had nothing to do with any of this.

All I was pointing out was that being excessively boastful and claiming that everyone, without exception, finds working with you "enormously fulfilling" is just unbecoming. I feel like many will find that distasteful and you should leave other people to rate their interactions with you. I doubt there's a single person in the world who has a 100% success rate with regards to positive social/professional experiences with others...

I could have definitely worded it more politely and honestly if this account was tied to my personal name I probably would have worded it more politely, so you've got me there :)

Re:Ask HN: What is a better approach to interviewing? by ChrisMarshallNY on Tuesday September 15, 2020 @11:30AM (#24482359)
All that said, you do have a point, and I'll refrain from saying that I'm a kind and openminded person that people tend to (as opposed to always) enjoy working with.

I posted incorrectly. It is not 100% universal, but I'll bet it's a lot more than you might think. I've spent the last 40 years, getting along with some of the most difficult people on Earth. In fact, many of them are ones with a history of violence, and it's always a good idea to be polite in that kind of company.

Geeks are easy, after that.

Re:Ask HN: What is a better approach to interviewing? by akhilkg on Sunday September 13, 2020 @10:20AM (#24461031)
could you elaborate about the machine learning candidate evaluation system, if you remember? Interested to know the approach
Re:Ask HN: What is a better approach to interviewing? by ChrisMarshallNY on Sunday September 13, 2020 @11:26AM (#24461441)
It was hearsay. I know who the person that claimed it is, but I feel as if I might be irresponsible to say more than what I have. It's deliberately vague.

That said, I suspect that many companies have been exploring this. It's pretty obvious that many places are already using AS (Artificial Stupidity) systems to triage applicants.