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Re:Ex-Google boss Eric Schmidt: US 'dropped the ball' on inn... by roenxi on Sunday September 13, 2020 @12:23AM (#24458331)
I don't understand China's educational strategy (no information), but their manufacturing strategy was highly decentralised. Shenzhen for example had a substantially independent government system with a modified tax code. They've been running a lot of independent experiments everywhere I looked, figuring out how to prosper.

That might carry over to education. The biggest mistake the US seems to be making is centralising and standardising a whole bunch of functions (education, healthcare, etc) at the federal level. Then if the anything goes wrong there is no escape. And the US federal government doesn't seem to be up to the task on a good day.

The US has always had a big ignorant population dragged along by a small core of ingenious, often foreign, visionaries. That doesn't seem to have changed recently.

Re:Ex-Google boss Eric Schmidt: US 'dropped the ball' on inn... by techbio on Sunday September 13, 2020 @02:23AM (#24458831)
A big part of the Chinese education strategy has been to send lots of students to US universities to get advanced degrees and take that knowledge back to build China.
Re:Ex-Google boss Eric Schmidt: US 'dropped the ball' on inn... by donw on Sunday September 13, 2020 @03:02AM (#24458988)
And to ensure that manufacturing moved to China!

Or at the very least, proximate to its geographical sphere of influence.

Honestly, it was a brilliant move on their part.

Everybody seems to focus on university, but there is a lot of very hard-won know-how at the technician level of the manufacturing sector. Most of this is difficult-to-impossible to codify, and tends to pass both cohort-to-cohort, and via professional networks.

Re:Ex-Google boss Eric Schmidt: US 'dropped the ball' on inn... by pvaldes on Sunday September 13, 2020 @06:02AM (#24459747)
> A big part of the Chinese education strategy has been to send lots of students to US universities to get advanced degrees and take that knowledge back to build China.

>> And to ensure that manufacturing moved to China!

Of course they did. But, to be fair:

1) Those students were not educated for free. They paid big money for it, and the universities were happy to grab the money fast

2) Some of this people were forced to go after their student visa expired. They could not work in US without a permit and were forced to exit. How to blame them for using their degree or creating a company in their own country later?

They shouldn't be seen as neither serfs nor slaves; technically they don't owe anything to US.

Re:Ex-Google boss Eric Schmidt: US 'dropped the ball' on inn... by donw on Sunday September 13, 2020 @08:50AM (#24460523)
> They paid big money for it, and the universities were happy to grab the money fast

And how. International students in the US pay outrageous tuition fees.

> Some of this people were forced to go after their student visa expired.

That's what happened to my wife.

By comparison, my visa in Japan was dead simple. No lawyers required.

The message that the US sends to international students is something like: "Thank you for ponying up all that money, for spending a year learning the language well enough to go to school, and for spending four years integrating into our language and culture. Now get the fuck out."

> How to blame them for using their degree or creating a company in their own country later?

Um... who is blaming who for what? I don't follow.

> They shouldn't be seen as neither serfs nor slaves; technically they don't owe anything to US.

Why would anybody think that international students owe anything to the country where they studied?