C’s Biggest Mistake (2009)

Re:C’s Biggest Mistake (2009) by humanrebar on Saturday September 12, 2020 @05:26PM (#24455905)

I don't see C being in much worse shape than C++ with respect to build system and package manager. It's slow going, but progress seems to be happening there.

Are you saying both are doomed? Or is there some scenario where C++ survives without C?

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Re:C’s Biggest Mistake (2009) by vlovich123 on Saturday September 12, 2020 @05:32PM (#24455954)

I think both are, long term (think FORTRAN where it’s not particularly popular but a lot of existing code is maintained and not rewritten).

C++ is actually in a slightly better spot ironically because it’s harder to integrate with. If you have a C program you can pretty easily start replacing parts with Rust. You can’t do the same with C++ which insulates it better in that sense.

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Re:C’s Biggest Mistake (2009) by ryl00 on Saturday September 12, 2020 @06:37PM (#24456485)

Reports of Fortran's death (latest standard 2018) are greatly exaggerated (much like C). It's receded to a niche, but it's still a very important niche (numerical, HPC). Hopefully, the development of a new Fortran front end for LLVM (from PGI/Nvidia?) pans out, as this would fill a gap in LLVM's offerings, and provide more competition for ifort and gfortran.

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Re:C’s Biggest Mistake (2009) by vlovich123 on Saturday September 12, 2020 @06:54PM (#24456597)

You’re proving my point. FORTRAN is a niche language. C++ is still mainstream. It will recede but not completely disappear

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Re:C’s Biggest Mistake (2009) by baby on Saturday September 12, 2020 @06:51PM (#24456580)

I don’t see a great future for C++ either

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