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Re:Apple: Apps should not require users to opt into tracking... by sbuk on Friday September 11, 2020 @04:29PM (#24447009)
There has to be be some degree of tying purchases to an account. The real issue here is what is done with the data after it's been collected. Internal use is one thing; such as improving apps etc. When it's used to target individual in a bid to influence their thinking, that's when the real problem starts. Are Apple guilty of the latter?
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Re:Apple: Apps should not require users to opt into tracking... by lern_too_spel on Friday September 11, 2020 @04:34PM (#24447059)
Certainly. They use it in app store ads, to determine their own product development, and to market their products.

On other platforms, I can install apps on my devices without telling anybody.

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Re:Apple: Apps should not require users to opt into tracking... by anater on Friday September 11, 2020 @05:49PM (#24447705)
Which platforms?
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Re:Apple: Apps should not require users to opt into tracking... by lern_too_spel on Friday September 11, 2020 @06:31PM (#24448016)
Most Android distributions, most Linux distributions, Windows, etc.
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Re:Apple: Apps should not require users to opt into tracking... by threeseed on Friday September 11, 2020 @07:00PM (#24448226)
Pretty sure most of those would be sending telemetry including installed apps back to the company.

And we know for a fact Windows does this.

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Re:Apple: Apps should not require users to opt into tracking... by lern_too_spel on Friday September 11, 2020 @08:46PM (#24448872)
> Pretty sure...

Now you know that you were wrong. Windows allows you to disable telemetry and certainly doesn't report apps you install to Microsoft if you don't want it to. Same for Android and obviously for desktop and server Linux distros. This is simply not possible on iOS.

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Re:Apple: Apps should not require users to opt into tracking... by threeseed on Friday September 11, 2020 @09:47PM (#24449163)
You can install apps on iOS without using the store.

And if you are willing to jailbreak then you have the full suite.

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Re:Apple: Apps should not require users to opt into tracking... by lern_too_spel on Friday September 11, 2020 @11:51PM (#24449685)
> You can install apps on iOS without using the store.

Not without reinstalling weekly unless you reduce your privacy even further by also give Apple your banking details.

> And if you are willing to jailbreak then you have the full suite.

On these other platforms, you don't have to rely on your device being so insecure that it has a rootable vulnerability.

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Re:Apple: Apps should not require users to opt into tracking... by saagarjha on Saturday September 12, 2020 @03:44AM (#24450690)
“Willing to” is not “able to”.
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