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Re:Pringles tube tries to wake from 'recycling nightmare' by masklinn on Friday September 11, 2020 @06:55AM (#24441299)
> I love Pringles tubes. We reuse them all over the place around the house. Never really thought of recycling them. Seems like a terrible waste to destroy a perfectly good container just to get a ~penny’s worth of materials out of it.

Recyclers are downstream from consumers. They can’t stop consumers from throwing away their pringles cans, and until Kellogg’s starts bulk-selling Pringles in bags… people will throw cans away, there’s noly do many cans you can find a use for.

I can’t find any specific production numbers but the internet tells me Kellogg’s sells for billions in snacks and pringles are a significant fraction of that. A Pringle can is a buck or two, meaning 6 figures Pringle cans being sold every year, if not 7.

Re:Pringles tube tries to wake from 'recycling nightmare' by adingus on Friday September 11, 2020 @07:00AM (#24441331)
Maybe they can progressively make Pringles cans bigger so you can store your old cans inside your new cans.
Re:Pringles tube tries to wake from 'recycling nightmare' by TeMPOraL on Friday September 11, 2020 @02:40PM (#24445966)
The traditional thing to do is to make packaging smaller (while keeping price the same) - so you'd get to store your new cans in your old cans.
Re:Pringles tube tries to wake from 'recycling nightmare' by Scoundreller on Friday September 11, 2020 @03:23PM (#24446385)
The tradition is to keep the packaging the same, but less content.

The same packaging for less should be a crime with bankrupting fines.

Re:Pringles tube tries to wake from 'recycling nightmare' by PostOnce on Friday September 11, 2020 @08:21PM (#24448733)
Re:Pringles tube tries to wake from 'recycling nightmare' by Scoundreller on Saturday September 12, 2020 @01:36AM (#24450121)
Trick is to fluff up your product more.
Re:Pringles tube tries to wake from 'recycling nightmare' by FatalLogic on Friday September 11, 2020 @04:20PM (#24446920)
This scenario inevitably ends up with the solar system inside a very big Pringles can
Re:Pringles tube tries to wake from 'recycling nightmare' by war1025 on Friday September 11, 2020 @05:39PM (#24447596)
Universal Pringles Cans!

(A play on Universal Paperclips [1], which was featured on here earlier this week)

[1] https://www.decisionproblem.com/paperclips/index2.html

Re:Pringles tube tries to wake from 'recycling nightmare' by adingus on Friday September 11, 2020 @09:37PM (#24449120)
I think by that time we'll have figured out how to safely store or reuse Pringles cans. Then we can apply the same method to nuclear waste and all of our problems will be solved.
Re:Pringles tube tries to wake from 'recycling nightmare' by sundvor on Friday September 11, 2020 @08:39PM (#24448832)
Pringles - Dyson edition!
Re:Pringles tube tries to wake from 'recycling nightmare' by chongli on Friday September 11, 2020 @07:02AM (#24441345)
That’s where the first R comes in. Only buy as many Pringles cans as you can reuse. People don’t want to do that either, though, because Pringles are addictive. That may be the root problem.

There’s no way they’ll sell Pringles in bags though; they’re way too delicate for anything but a purpose-built rigid container.

Re:Pringles tube tries to wake from 'recycling nightmare' by masklinn on Friday September 11, 2020 @07:05AM (#24441364)
> That’s where the first R comes in. Only buy as many Pringles cans as you can reuse. People don’t want to do that either, though, because Pringles are addictive. That may be the root problem.

The first R is already not an option, people who buy pringles want pringles, otherwise they wouldn’t be buying that. Short of making pringles illegal you’re not going to change this.

> There’s no way they’ll sell Pringles in bags though; they’re way too delicate for anything but a purpose-built rigid container.

Pringles were literally invented because potato chips were too fragile at a time when shipping bags of chips and having them survive the transit was basically a bad bet. Chips remain sold in bags to this day.

Re:Pringles tube tries to wake from 'recycling nightmare' by userbinator on Friday September 11, 2020 @07:25PM (#24448393)
Chips remain sold in bags to this day.

Chips which are much thicker than Pringles.

Re:Pringles tube tries to wake from 'recycling nightmare' by masklinn on Saturday September 12, 2020 @08:10AM (#24451840)
No.
Re:Pringles tube tries to wake from 'recycling nightmare' by pessimizer on Friday September 11, 2020 @09:44AM (#24442704)
> Only buy as many Pringles cans as you can reuse.

So about six cans of Pringles per lifetime?

Re:Pringles tube tries to wake from 'recycling nightmare' by chongli on Friday September 11, 2020 @09:57AM (#24442859)
No, they wear out eventually and need replacing.
Re:Pringles tube tries to wake from 'recycling nightmare' by Spare_account on Friday September 11, 2020 @02:53PM (#24446099)
Which is where the featured article is relevant
Re:Pringles tube tries to wake from 'recycling nightmare' by cogburnd02 on Friday September 11, 2020 @03:03PM (#24446204)
> a purpose-built rigid container.

Why not Al cans?

Re:Pringles tube tries to wake from 'recycling nightmare' by ethbr0 on Friday September 11, 2020 @07:57PM (#24448605)
> Why not Al cans?

I am sick and tired of this being the solution to every problem!

Anytime there's a legacy business model in need of polishing, they plate it in Al and call it something new.

Al doesn't work that way. There's many uses it excels at, but it's not a panacea.

Nowadays, we have Al toasters, Al refrigerators, even Al watches. Yet no one stopped to ask if these were devices that needed Al.

Hell, I even heard about a company that's building Al homes. Interface with your car and everything.

Personally, I can't wait for the next Al winter.

/1950s sarcasm

Re:Pringles tube tries to wake from 'recycling nightmare' by zxcmx on Friday September 11, 2020 @08:32PM (#24448800)
Al = Aluminium
Re:Pringles tube tries to wake from 'recycling nightmare' by cogburnd02 on Friday September 18, 2020 @06:28PM (#24522477)
Hahaha, yeah I meant Al as in Aluminum.

Good fonts let you know the difference between a lowercase l (ell) and an uppercase I (eye).

Re:Pringles tube tries to wake from 'recycling nightmare' by nickff on Friday September 11, 2020 @04:14PM (#24446866)
It's probably a cost & manufacturing issue; I would guess that a draw that long is physically difficult to perform. It may be practical for something 1/2 or 1/3 the length of the pringles can.
Re:Pringles tube tries to wake from 'recycling nightmare' by korethr on Friday September 11, 2020 @05:30PM (#24447525)
I agree that it's probably a manufacturing cost issue, but I disagree that a draw that long is necessarily difficult to perform. One can buy extruded aluminum in various shapes, in very thin wall thicknesses, in lengths measured in meters or more. At a previous job, I semi-regularly worked with aluminum angle with about about 1mm wall thickness, several feet long. And note that the length of a typical energy drink is something like 2/3 of the length of a Pringles can.

Now, I doubt an aluminum Pringles can would need 1mm wall thickness for sufficient strength to deal with the usual rigors of being handled by a minimum wage shipping or shelf-stocking employee. However, I will concede that something with say, the typical .01-.02 wall thickness of a soda/beer can may be harder to produce with a workflow of cutting can-lengths from a large piece of extruded stock. Depending on how the stock was cut, you risk crushing it. At that thickness, you'd do better to stamp the final can size & shape from crude blanks. Now, at high enough volume, it could be worth it to in-house the can-stamping operation; beer companies are an example. I could see Pringles having enough volume to justify in-house production of their cans.

But I don't think a .01-.02 wall thickness would be enough for a Pringles can. Yes, soda cans are strong enough to endure shipping and handling, but most of that strength comes from the fact that their contents are under pressure; significantly moreso than a pringles can, I'd bet. Witness how easy it becomes to crush a soda can once it is opened, even when it is still partially full. So .01-02mm wouldn't do. I'd guess .1-2mm would, however. But at a 10x wall thickness you're using 10x the material if my math is right, so an all-aluminum Pringles can with a .1mm wall thickness would cost at least 10x to produce as a soda can of equal length.

So yeah, manufacturing cost issue is probably at least one factor. But I'm willing to be wrong about that.

Re:Pringles tube tries to wake from 'recycling nightmare' by nickff on Friday September 11, 2020 @05:50PM (#24447715)
Pringles could simply pressurize their cans if strength was the issue, by sealing the cans in a pressurized environment; it would be a little more expensive than for soda, but not a deal-breaker.
Re:Pringles tube tries to wake from 'recycling nightmare' by korethr on Friday September 11, 2020 @06:31PM (#24448017)
I think Pringles cans are already lightly pressurized. "Once you pop, you can't stop", and this picture[1]. Now, that title is misleading; the plane may be at 30,000ft, but the cabin is not at the atmospheric pressure of that altitude, but rather something closer to 7000 ft or so.

Either way, that brings up an interesting (to me, anyway) question: Would it be cheaper for Pringles to simply stamp their cans with thicker walls, or engineer their production line to allow the cans to be sealed at an even higher pressure?

1. https://imgur.com/gallery/oHIK8iF

Re:Pringles tube tries to wake from 'recycling nightmare' by WalterBright on Friday September 11, 2020 @04:33PM (#24447045)
> Pringles are addictive

Pringles have nothing on Doritos.

Re:Pringles tube tries to wake from 'recycling nightmare' by ethbr0 on Friday September 11, 2020 @07:53PM (#24448580)
Structural integrity?
Re:Pringles tube tries to wake from 'recycling nightmare' by margo209320 on Friday September 11, 2020 @09:26AM (#24442522)
> meaning 6 figures Pringle cans being sold every year, if not 7

The article states "three million cans are made across Europe every day". That's 10 figures annually in Europe alone.

Re:Pringles tube tries to wake from 'recycling nightmare' by bagels on Friday September 11, 2020 @02:57PM (#24446143)
What kind of millions are we talking?

It's probably 3,000,000, which is 6 or 7 figures.

Re:Pringles tube tries to wake from 'recycling nightmare' by Y_Y on Friday September 11, 2020 @03:12PM (#24446289)
European years typically have on the order of 1e2 days.
Re:Pringles tube tries to wake from 'recycling nightmare' by bagels on Friday September 11, 2020 @03:46PM (#24446581)
Per day vs. per year, got it. I thought the comment was arguing about how many "figures" that number represented.
Re:Pringles tube tries to wake from 'recycling nightmare' by joedevon on Friday September 11, 2020 @04:28PM (#24446996)
Since Pringles tastes like cardboard, why don't they start making the can out of Pringles?
Re:Pringles tube tries to wake from 'recycling nightmare' by treeman79 on Friday September 11, 2020 @07:07PM (#24448269)
Salty cardboard.
Re:Pringles tube tries to wake from 'recycling nightmare' by LargoLasskhyfv on Saturday September 12, 2020 @08:12AM (#24451851)
Kellogs owns Pringles now? That is news to me. How does that work for the brand image of healthy nutrition?