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Re:Cameras on San Diego streetlights turned off until ordina... by treis on Thursday September 10, 2020 @03:50PM (#24435883)
If we go to the level of one time a cop did a bad thing with this tool then yeah everything will be abused. I'm more interested in cases where the police as a organization abused CCTV.
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Re:Cameras on San Diego streetlights turned off until ordina... by syspec on Thursday September 10, 2020 @03:55PM (#24435927)
You asked for an example, and they provided it. Then you moved the goal post
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Re:Cameras on San Diego streetlights turned off until ordina... by treis on Thursday September 10, 2020 @04:02PM (#24435992)
Because the first goal post was meaningless. If that's the level we're looking at then we can't even give cops sticks because at least one of them is going to beat an innocent person with it.
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Re:Cameras on San Diego streetlights turned off until ordina... by brendoelfrendo on Thursday September 10, 2020 @04:24PM (#24436220)
> Because the first goal post was meaningless.

I think that's debatable. If an individual can abuse the system in a way that undermines the intent of the system, we need to think carefully about what it is that we're actually building.

> we can't even give cops sticks because at least one of them is going to beat an innocent person with it.

Considering the debate around police violence in America right now, I think it's amusing that we're using this as an example of a ridiculous proposition. Maybe not sticks, no, but the level to which our police are armed is definitely under scrutiny.

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Re:Cameras on San Diego streetlights turned off until ordina... by ABCLAW on Thursday September 10, 2020 @04:10PM (#24436055)
>Because the first goal post was meaningless.

You're the one that placed it there.

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Re:Cameras on San Diego streetlights turned off until ordina... by treis on Thursday September 10, 2020 @04:43PM (#24436390)
Not really. They said abuse. I took that to mean abuse by the police as a group. Not abuse by any individual cop.
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Re:Cameras on San Diego streetlights turned off until ordina... by srtjstjsj on Friday September 11, 2020 @12:30AM (#24439208)
I think the ACLU has a great set of examples: https://www.aclu.org/other/whats-wrong-public-video-surveill...
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