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Re:Former NSA chief Keith Alexander has joined Amazon’s boar... by leptoniscool on Wednesday September 09, 2020 @06:46PM (#24426776)
Amazon does have devices listening in every home. Is the concern here that hiring Keith Alexander would make it easier for government to get people's conversation data?
Re:Former NSA chief Keith Alexander has joined Amazon’s boar... by throwawaynothx on Thursday September 10, 2020 @12:05AM (#24428788)
"in every home." - only morons homes.
Re:Former NSA chief Keith Alexander has joined Amazon’s boar... by schoen on Thursday September 10, 2020 @06:07AM (#24430719)
I think I'd be more worried that he might discourage investments that could help Amazon better protect its foreign customers against U.S. and partners' espionage efforts.

Or perhaps affect Amazon's procurement with non-transparent motives. Suppose these is a certain microarchitectural vulnerability in one vendor's hardware but not another's. If Amazon could be induced to buy the vulnerable hardware over the non-vulnerable hardware, that could help people who knew about the vulnerability spy on AWS customers. Or if there were a company to be rewarded or punished for its decision to cooperate or not to cooperate with some covert activity, the reward or punishment could be done through procurement decisions.

Or perhaps affect Amazon's lobbying at home or abroad about privacy legislation or something.

(It's not obvious to me whether the danger is particularly greater from a former DIRNSA than from someone with undisclosed connections to a spy agency. Maybe Alexander's recommendations would get extra scrutiny!)

Re:Former NSA chief Keith Alexander has joined Amazon’s boar... by tasogare on Wednesday September 09, 2020 @06:51PM (#24426824)
> Amazon does have devices listening in every home.

No, they don’t. It’s a choice people make, and most aren’t buying Kindle, Echo or other near useless spying device like that.

Re:Former NSA chief Keith Alexander has joined Amazon’s boar... by person3 on Wednesday September 09, 2020 @07:13PM (#24427039)
Not true, a simple Google search reveals [1 in 4 US adults have a smart speaker](https://marketingland.com/roughly-1-in-4-u-s-adults-now-owns...). It _is_ a choice people make, and most don't care about privacy.

Not that it matters though - phones are [already a vector](https://www.wired.com/2014/06/nsa-bug-iphone/) for the government to listen to you. I'm not sure this news really changes anything - the government already works with large US companies to spy on people, and then makes sure they're not allowed to disclose it to the public.

Also, I think Kindle is a great product, and wouldn't consider it a useless spying device. Each to their own though.

Re:Former NSA chief Keith Alexander has joined Amazon’s boar... by AnimalMuppet on Wednesday September 09, 2020 @07:17PM (#24427078)
Well, the majority still aren't buying. The initial assertion was "in every home", which is false in the majority of homes.
Re:Former NSA chief Keith Alexander has joined Amazon’s boar... by person3 on Wednesday September 09, 2020 @07:29PM (#24427191)
That's correct. I just think saying "most aren't buying" gives the impression that it's not popular, when in fact it is a pretty widespread product. Not to mention Alexa being added into tons of other products such as smart thermostats, home theater speakers, etc. The number is only growing.
Re:Former NSA chief Keith Alexander has joined Amazon’s boar... by vageli on Wednesday September 09, 2020 @08:44PM (#24427715)
> Well, the majority still aren't buying. The initial assertion was "in every home", which is false in the majority of homes.

Are we assuming that all the individuals who purchased the devices live completely alone? There are only 128 million households in the US. [0]

[0]: https://www.statista.com/statistics/183635/number-of-househo...

Re:Former NSA chief Keith Alexander has joined Amazon’s boar... by mahkeiro on Thursday September 10, 2020 @01:10AM (#24429077)
You cannot imply this, the stats is about US adult, many adult may also have the same speaker in their household.
Re:Former NSA chief Keith Alexander has joined Amazon’s boar... by vageli on Monday September 21, 2020 @08:11PM (#24549693)
This is precisely the point I was trying to make.
Re:Former NSA chief Keith Alexander has joined Amazon’s boar... by 1MoreThing on Wednesday September 09, 2020 @07:56PM (#24427399)
This is why I keep one of each in my home. By having an Echo, Google Assistant, and an iPhone, I figure I'm able to give everyone access to my data, making it worth less. (</s>)
Re:Former NSA chief Keith Alexander has joined Amazon’s boar... by lmedinas on Thursday September 10, 2020 @02:08AM (#24429383)
Imagine with so much data, US still has so many problems and don't have "Minority report" yet... go figure...

sarcasm.

Re:Former NSA chief Keith Alexander has joined Amazon’s boar... by coronadisaster on Wednesday September 09, 2020 @08:22PM (#24427568)
Amazon tablets are pretty cheap... I bet many, including myself for the kids, chose them.