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Re:Lets-plot: An interactive Python plotting library using g... by antipaul on Wednesday September 09, 2020 @02:09PM (#24423935)
As a huge fan of tidyverse, I have to agree. Tidy eval is anything but.

However, once they get that right, then tidyverse is close to perfection

I think the newish “interpolation” syntax with double braces {{ }} is getting there.

Re:Lets-plot: An interactive Python plotting library using g... by disgruntledphd2 on Thursday September 10, 2020 @11:17AM (#24433113)
See, it's changed again!

Damnit Hadley, why must you do this to me?

(Really I'm bitter because I know that I'll end up maintaining a bunch of important code in version N-2 of Hadley's NSE adventures at some point in the future).

Re:Lets-plot: An interactive Python plotting library using g... by antipaul on Thursday September 10, 2020 @07:25PM (#24437658)
Changed, yes, and finally in the right direction I would say!
Re:Lets-plot: An interactive Python plotting library using g... by antipaul on Thursday September 17, 2020 @10:39PM (#24512409)
... and the following is what I mean. I think this is as close to clean and understandable as it can get, for most use cases (variables in functions, including creating new variables):

https://www.tidyverse.org/blog/2020/02/glue-strings-and-tidy...

Re:Lets-plot: An interactive Python plotting library using g... by vharuck on Wednesday September 09, 2020 @02:55PM (#24424441)
The biggest difficulty of NSE is not the syntax, but the requirement to hold parallel mental models while writing the code: symbolic expressions and value manipulation. Juggling will always be difficult.