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Re:Lets-plot: An interactive Python plotting library using g... by disgruntledphd2 on Wednesday September 09, 2020 @10:02AM (#24421062)
Honestly, R will be fine, even apart from tidyverse.

There's a huge shadow universe of scientists running particular R packages for these analyses, which never gets seen from HN/programmers.

While Python is definitely (sadly, IMO) a better language for building ML systems (because more people know it, and it's harder to write impenetrable code), R is definitely a better DSL for statistical analysis, modelling and graphics.

It's a shame that R takes its lineage from a language developed in the 70's (S), as that's a cause of many of the inconsistencies in the core language.

Re:Lets-plot: An interactive Python plotting library using g... by crispyambulance on Wednesday September 09, 2020 @01:11PM (#24423195)
I agree R would have been "fine" without Tidyverse-- in the sense that it would keep a persistent survivable niche base.

I suspect, however, that it would not be anywhere near the top 10 of the TIOBE index like it is now and that it's userbase would consist of mostly of statistics practitioners rather than huge swathes of people that need to perform any basic data analysis.