Tech firms face growing resentment of parent employees during Covid-19

Re:Tech firms face growing resentment of parent employees du... by CydeWeys on Tuesday September 08, 2020 @07:56PM (#24415051)

I dunno ... I'm pretty pro-immigration, and I live in NYC, which has one of (if not the) highest immigrant populations in the entire country. The same is generally true of large cosmopolitan cities. And the "impact of their influx" is actually net positive. It turns out that having more people, yes, even immigrants, has a net positive impact on the local economy, because more people means more consumers (not just more labor market competition), and you realize greater efficiencies of scale. So I don't actually think this is a good example.

I think the hypocrisy you're alluding to here is that coastal liberals are often NIMBYist, which has the direct effect of making housing expensive, which affects most people negatively, immigrants included. I'll agree with you on that one as being a problem, but I don't think it exactly fits into the class of issues you're talking about.

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Re:Tech firms face growing resentment of parent employees du... by zarkov99 on Wednesday September 09, 2020 @09:51AM (#24420961)

I disagree, I do think its a good example. Immigration has its pros and cons and smart policies can boost the pros and lessen the cons. Its very clear that immigrants can bring enormous value but its also clear that they can lower the wages of unskilled work, as they have done in the US, and also increase serious crime, as has happened in Sweden and other European countries. The well to do elites that argue taking in immigrants is either always good or a moral imperative, would very quickly change their minds if they were either victimized or out-competed by an immigrant. But since does not happen - problematic immigrants live far away in poor communities and are not able to pursue high paying jobs - they can keep spouting sanctimonious bullshit.

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Re:Tech firms face growing resentment of parent employees du... by pbalau on Tuesday September 08, 2020 @09:51PM (#24415901)

A better example would be Americans arguing Turkey, Greece and Italy should do more for emigrants coming from Middle East/North Africa.

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Re:Tech firms face growing resentment of parent employees du... by CydeWeys on Tuesday September 08, 2020 @11:08PM (#24416555)

Yeah but now we're getting into the land of international relations. This is becoming awfully abstract from the original topic.

Also I think you're missing some nuance here, which is that the people arguing in favor of this would indeed do a lot more to admit emigrants/refugees here, it's just that they aren't in power and don't run the government. So they can't be hypocrites for advocating for something they genuinely would do if only they were able to.

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Re:Tech firms face growing resentment of parent employees du... by zarkov99 on Wednesday September 09, 2020 @09:57AM (#24421019)

Would they really? How many of these people do you think would be happy to open their homes, or at least their neighborhoods, to a substantial number of poor, unskilled, uneducated and culturally alien people? The world would work a lot better if we all learned to ignore opinions when they come from people with no skin in the game.

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Re:Tech firms face growing resentment of parent employees du... by CydeWeys on Wednesday September 09, 2020 @10:40AM (#24421514)

Yeah, I really do think many of them actually would. For example, I'm Jewish, so I know what happens when the US turns its back on refugees fleeing genocide.

But they're not in power and they aren't making the immigration decisions, hence it's not happening.

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Re:Tech firms face growing resentment of parent employees du... by zarkov99 on Wednesday September 09, 2020 @11:11AM (#24421900)

Fair enough, we disagree on that but I have no data to back my intuition up. Thanks for the civil discussion.

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