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Re:BitTorrent v2 by gruez on Monday September 07, 2020 @09:09PM (#24404307)
>As I understand I need to do something that's pretty much exactly like opening a bank account

Not really. If I want a bank account I need to fill out a page of paperwork requiring my name, address, social security number, citizenship information, income, occupation, date of birth, scans of various pieces of ID and/or other documents. Compare this to bitcoin where you only need to install an app, and new identities can be generated on-demand. It's true that trying to buy/sell bitcoins via an exchange will subject you to AML requirements, but in-person transactions won't.

>transactions take forever, they cost money [...] unlike my free credit card.

The cost and time it takes is mostly a function of how much demand is there for blockchain space. During periods of high transaction volume, you'll either have to pay high fees or wait a long time. You can see in this chart https://jochen-hoenicke.de/queue/#0,30d that there are periods of very high transaction fees (the yellow peaks correspond to a $3 fee for a typical transaction), but also periods with low transaction fees (the parts with blue troughs correspond to a $0.12 fee for a typical transaction). People in a hurry pay more and people who can wait pay less. It's a classic microeconomics.

Credit cards aren't free either. The cost (around 2-3% in the US) is borne by the merchant. Cash has fees for handling, transportation, and storage. "Free" bank transfers (eg. vemo, SEPA) are typically restricted to consumers, are often part of a bigger banking package, which have fees or minimum balance requirements.

Re:BitTorrent v2 by TedDoesntTalk on Monday September 07, 2020 @09:40PM (#24404477)
> It's true that trying to buy/sell bitcoins via an exchange will subject you to AML requirements, but in-person transactions won't.

Nobody does bitcoin transactions in person, at least not in America and not anyone I know. I have several bitcoins and the only way to use them is through an exchange like coinbase, who require the same identity documents that a bank does.

You could argue “but you just have to find vendors who accept bitcoin!” But with 3 bitcoin I won’t find enough vendors to spend it on.

Re:BitTorrent v2 by gruez on Monday September 07, 2020 @10:07PM (#24404638)
>Nobody does bitcoin transactions in person, at least not in America and not anyone I know.

https://localbitcoins.com/

>You could argue “but you just have to find vendors who accept bitcoin!” But with 3 bitcoin I won’t find enough vendors to spend it on.

There are also bitcoin-for-gift-card stores, which vastly expands your vendor options.

Re:BitTorrent v2 by Talanes on Monday September 07, 2020 @11:42PM (#24405013)
How is buying gift cards not just a more restrictive way of converting your Bitcoin to the currency on the gift card?
Re:BitTorrent v2 by gruez on Monday September 07, 2020 @11:48PM (#24405042)
It is, but the restrictiveness of mostly mitigated because you can either 1) buy gift cards to stores you visit on a regular basis (eg. nearby supermarket) 2) buy gift cards only after you've decided what to buy. It's also adventurous compared to converting to cash directly because there's usually a discount on the gift card (compared to having to pay a fee for cash), and that AML regulations are laxer.
Re:BitTorrent v2 by andirk on Wednesday September 09, 2020 @04:44PM (#24425712)
And Overstock accepts BTC and isnt famous for over-working and under-paying their employees.
Re:BitTorrent v2 by davidgerard on Tuesday September 08, 2020 @07:48AM (#24407450)
localbitcoins has KYC now
Re:BitTorrent v2 by GoblinSlayer on Tuesday September 08, 2020 @10:04AM (#24408448)
Tor project does. Coinbase is not the only way to use bitcoin.
Re:BitTorrent v2 by zajio1am on Tuesday September 08, 2020 @07:58AM (#24407517)
> Credit cards aren't free either. The cost (around 2-3% in the US) is borne by the merchant.

In EU, regulation caps interchange fees at 0.2% of the transaction value for debit cards and at 0.3% for credit cards.

> "Free" bank transfers (eg. vemo, SEPA) are typically restricted to consumers, are often part of a bigger banking package, which have fees or minimum balance requirement

A bank that i use has free SEPA transfers, no montly fees and negligible minimum balance reqirements, both for consumer and business accounts.

Re:BitTorrent v2 by enedil on Tuesday September 08, 2020 @02:07AM (#24405607)
The parent commenter is European, so they have probably a lots better experience with banking than you might have in the US.