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Re:The US Army spent millions developing giant, six-legged w... by pjc50 on Monday September 07, 2020 @04:18PM (#24402422)
That's the choice of your fellow citizens who'd rather spend money on weapons than feed people, and will come up with elaborate stories about why your uncle deserves to be in that position. :(
Re:The US Army spent millions developing giant, six-legged w... by Retric on Monday September 07, 2020 @05:09PM (#24402897)
The other side of this is we spend a lot of money feeding people in the US. Unfortunately, it’s not an efficient system consisting of farm subsidies, food stamps, school lunch programs etc. If the goal was simply adequate nutrition for every American we could easily have that with current budgets. But, instead money must also end up in the correct people’s pockets while also feeding people.
Re:The US Army spent millions developing giant, six-legged w... by CamperBob2 on Monday September 07, 2020 @04:34PM (#24402587)
," he said, on an ARPA-funded network.
Re:The US Army spent millions developing giant, six-legged w... by renewiltord on Monday September 07, 2020 @05:17PM (#24402984)
"My uncle is starving while defence projects get lots of money" and "Some defence projects have led to good outcomes for society".

Without aiming to insult here¹, is it interesting to anyone that the same things we say when we're 14-15 years old are the same things we say decades later? I remember having had this argument when I was a kid (and very space-obsessed) and it was almost exactly like this. I remember my classroom, even, and it was between Physics and English and the teacher hadn't come in yet.

It's like some number of people have to be thrown into the war of the ideas periodically to preserve the battle lines exactly as they are. Stop and you lose ground.

¹ like not saying I'm better than you guys, I could just as well do what you're doing.

Re:The US Army spent millions developing giant, six-legged w... by pjc50 on Tuesday September 08, 2020 @03:59AM (#24406170)
> It's like some number of people have to be thrown into the war of the ideas periodically to preserve the battle lines exactly as they are. Stop and you lose ground.

Well, yes. Overton window and all that. Similar discussions on USENET 20 years ago. Although I think in some ways they've moved on, and in some ways regressed - the openness of troll conservativism, for example.

I sometimes think of these ideological fault lines as behaving like the geological ones; pressure maintained for years in equilibrium, then there is a crisis and a huge slip all at once. With a lot of stuff getting demolished along the way.

Re:The US Army spent millions developing giant, six-legged w... by pjc50 on Tuesday September 08, 2020 @03:55AM (#24406142)
I'd be impressed if you could find a single hop in the modern network we're using that's actually run by ARPA. The ISPs, the hosting, the interconnect - all private. Who owns the transatlantic link?

Calling the internet an ARPA system is like insisting on calling telephones the Bell system.

Re:The US Army spent millions developing giant, six-legged w... by projektfu on Tuesday September 08, 2020 @12:32PM (#24410028)
Yes, but it’s exactly what DARPA generally does. They fund people to propose and prototype. I remember my Dad trying to get grants in the SBIR program. In phase I, they’re funding projects that are merely proposals for something they could eventually fund. Things may graduate from ARPA and go through the normal procurement process or they might be shelved.

The government and military are very large consumers of internet hardware, software and services, all of which would look very different if they waited on the private sector. (Probably something specified by ITU).