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Re:Should top CS schools offer Software Engineering as a sep... by jallmann on Tuesday April 12, 2011 @05:40PM (#2439451)
Agreed 100%. Algorithms and data structures provide a better guarantee of correctness than any design pattern ever will.

But that's not only what SE about. It's also about taking all the various algos, data structures and design patterns in a system, and pulling them together on time, on spec and on budget. SE is a discipline of process, not of theory or algorithmic correctness.

But you're right in that most SE 'best practices', as they teach them in school, are sorely lacking.

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Re:Should top CS schools offer Software Engineering as a sep... by Silhouette on Wednesday April 13, 2011 @12:15AM (#2440729)
> But that's not only what SE about. It's also about taking all the various algos, data structures and design patterns in a system, and pulling them together on time, on spec and on budget.

Unfortunately, no-one has yet worked out how to do that reliably and repeatably, which is why "software engineering" isn't.

Then again, "computer science" isn't either.

If we're going to have a sensible discussion about splitting theoretical/mathematical courses from practical/applied ones, perhaps we should start by completely removing the misleading terms CS and SE from the debate.

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