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Re:Hong Kong mourns the end of its way of life by hnarn on Sunday September 06, 2020 @12:00PM (#24392239)
It's not ironic, because the United States is not claiming the area as territorial waters belonging to the U.S.

China is clearly the "aggressor" in this situation because they are building military installations in an area that was previously not a militarized zone.

Re:Hong Kong mourns the end of its way of life by dirtyid on Sunday September 06, 2020 @03:10PM (#24393819)
>clearly the "aggressor"

China was the 5th out of 6th claimants to weaponize their holdings on the SCS. The last being Brunei who has nothing. China was merely responding, not initiating SCS weaponization (but mostly in response to US pivot to Asia and increased US basing in the area to contain China - same reason Russia took Crimea in response to NATO encroachment led by US). The difference being China reclaiming land with 2% of Chinese GDP will vastly outscope Vietnam, Malaysia, Philippines or Taiwan. The irony is US pushing Philippines for PCA case against China using a dispute system China opted out during her UNCLOS ratification while US not being signatory to UNCLOS. Or US not recognizing features of other claimants that was also invalidated by PCA ruling which applied uniformly to other parties in the SCS.

Re:Hong Kong mourns the end of its way of life by throw5543235 on Sunday September 06, 2020 @10:55PM (#24396257)
Why is a comment that merely states the facts being downvoted?
Re:Hong Kong mourns the end of its way of life by andi999 on Monday September 07, 2020 @09:30AM (#24399289)
well, facts can apart from beiing right or wrong, also be unpopular.
Re:Hong Kong mourns the end of its way of life by 8note on Sunday September 06, 2020 @12:47PM (#24392647)
The American navy has been going around there for a long time; that's hardly non-militarized.

I'm not sure there's a big difference between claiming they're territorial US waters vs claiming that the US gets to decide who's waters they are. In both cases the US has sovereignty over those waters

Re:Hong Kong mourns the end of its way of life by jasonwatkinspdx on Sunday September 06, 2020 @02:48PM (#24393650)
No, this is all off the mark. Freedom of navigation cruises are not somehow asserting sovereignty.
Re:Hong Kong mourns the end of its way of life by AlotOfReading on Sunday September 06, 2020 @01:03PM (#24392776)
I'm not aware of the US ever claiming it gets to decide whose waters they are. Can you provide some links for that? I've only seen the US appeal to the convention and various arbitrations on the issue.