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Re:Are you an anarchist? The answer may surprise you (2000) by luckylion on Saturday September 05, 2020 @12:18PM (#24384686)
> You can self-organise to set rules, and show away people who refuse to comply.

Aka "we don't need law enforcement, we can become law enforcement ourselves". And then you have law enforcement. Sounds like a reset more than an alternative.

Re:Are you an anarchist? The answer may surprise you (2000) by komali2 on Saturday September 05, 2020 @12:39PM (#24384872)
Not quite so simple: this is what "community policing" is all about. Many portland protesters were there because they wanted the national guard out. National guard soldiers who didn't live there, weren't members of the community... Who could act shitty to community members with no consequence.
Re:Are you an anarchist? The answer may surprise you (2000) by luckylion on Saturday September 05, 2020 @01:15PM (#24385169)
Sure, but that's a reset. "I don't like the persons who do the law enforcement, I want to become the law enforcement". And then, of course, not be replaced by somebody who doesn't like that style of law enforcement.

That would most likely quickly lead to massive segregation by any major criteria available, as "community policing" essentially means "no written laws, no recourse, we'll apply them as we see fit", ergo if you're not tightly aligned with the majority in your specific area, you're going to have a terrible time - so you leave for a place where they are more like you. Presumably while leaving your stuff behind to provide valuable "community resources".

I'm not saying that that couldn't be a good thing (homogeneity = less conflict), but I always get the feeling that there's a lot of magic involved ("we will find ways to come to consensus", "once we are free, all disagreement vanishes", which often sounds like wink wink and a few mass graves somewhere) and a lot of what is hand-waved away will present extremely large problems that will quickly make most people long for the stable, predictable and relatively tolerant society we have today.

Re:Are you an anarchist? The answer may surprise you (2000) by pqhwan on Saturday September 05, 2020 @03:52PM (#24386406)
> “I don't like the persons who do the law enforcement, I want to become the law enforcement"

IMO that’s an overly pessimistic view of those who push for community policing. In reality, it’s more like “we want people with stakes in the community’s wellness to police it, not those who see it as their daytime stomping ground.”

> That would most likely quickly lead to massive segregation

Really? Community policing = “no written laws”? You don’t think there’s a middle ground between “friendly neighborhood policemen” and Judge Dredd?

> if you're not tightly aligned with the majority in your specific area, you're going to have a terrible time

Right, because we currently live in a society that’s totally not segregated by wealth, race, culture, religion, sexuality, or political views. And clearly, the police system has been our bulwark against non-aligning minorities being persecuted! That’s what the protests are all about, right?

Re:Are you an anarchist? The answer may surprise you (2000) by luckylion on Saturday September 05, 2020 @04:45PM (#24386720)
> Right, because we currently live in a society that’s totally not segregated by wealth, race, culture, religion, sexuality, or political views.

If local majorities set the rules and aren't constrained by the state in what they can do, you'll think back to these days as the glory when everything was (in comparison) diverse and people tolerated each other. Balkanization describes the effect of that kind of community policing. And you better be ready to adjust to local laws when traveling through the different zones.

Re:Are you an anarchist? The answer may surprise you (2000) by vidarh on Sunday September 06, 2020 @10:59AM (#24391769)
With the crucial difference of not having the power to set rules for people who instead opt not to engage with you.