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Re:The User Always Loses by katsume3 on Saturday September 05, 2020 @10:32AM (#24383804)
I find it ironic that this article talks about the user losing out to aggressive (and intrusive) advertising on the web, but presents me with an un-closeable modal window[0] asking me to subscribe to their blog. Note: I have JS disabled by default, and had to temporarily enable JS to view the article, but it's still intrusive and annoying for users.

[0] https://imgur.com/a/SQSHh0i

Re:The User Always Loses by minerjoe on Saturday September 05, 2020 @11:01AM (#24384043)
Curious to why you had to turn on JS to view the article. The article is contained, in its entirety, in the initial page load. I use a modified version of links that doesn't even have javascript to turn on and the page popped open, as most do, without distractions.
Re:The User Always Loses by LargoLasskhyfv on Saturday September 05, 2020 @08:47PM (#24388015)
Erase the /tnamp/ at the end of the URL and try without https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accelerated_Mobile_Pages ?
Re:The User Always Loses by zzo38computer on Saturday September 05, 2020 @03:35PM (#24386303)
I got the popup message, but could delete it with the element inspector. But I still dislike the large font size and narrow margins, so I also disabled CSS and that fixed it.
Re:The User Always Loses by frumiousirc on Sunday September 06, 2020 @10:06AM (#24391386)
I find it ironic that Firefox can not render the content at that link. Or maybe the opposite of ironic, ie ironic.
Re:The User Always Loses by codethief on Saturday September 05, 2020 @11:00AM (#24384036)
Interesting, I'm not getting that modal. Have you recently read some other articles by The Nation?
Re:The User Always Loses by true_religion on Saturday September 05, 2020 @10:37AM (#24383844)
Is it an advertisement when it’s the same property that you are in? That’s like HBO advertising the next episode of a show you are watching.
Re:The User Always Loses by aaronax on Saturday September 05, 2020 @11:11AM (#24384110)
Yes, though it does become a fuzzy line.

I believe it would not be advertising to display the next episode of a series, or even auto play it. But it would be advertising to display a different series or film.

For a fuzzier one, how about a newspaper providing links to their other stories at the bottom of an article that you have read? Typically I gain nothing by ingesting more of a particular publication's writing, so that could be an ad rather than useful functionality. Perhaps not in a special circumstance such as if I am trying to catch up on news local to that publication.

Re:The User Always Loses by chipotle_coyote on Saturday September 05, 2020 @09:17PM (#24388185)
I don't really mind links to other articles at the bottom of the article that I'm reading. I mean, yes, it's a kind of advertising, but it's not intrinsically intrusive. If a site brings up a modal popup while I'm scrolling an article saying "OMG ENTER YOUR EMAIL HERE TO GET NOTIFIED WHENEVER WE WRITE ANYTHING ABOUT ANYTHING [or click this tiny text that says "no" in the most passive-aggressive phrasing we could think of]", that's a different issue.

(I kind of wonder if internet advertising would be a lot less hated if it had developed with a culture of restraint rather than maximum in-your-faceness, although to be fair, I'm not sure how that could ever have happened.)

Re:The User Always Loses by njarboe on Saturday September 05, 2020 @10:59AM (#24384028)
Yes. And I find it annoying when HBO plays ads for their shows before starting what I have selected to watch. They started doing this a year or two ago.