Re:Apple to delay privacy change threatening Facebook, mobil...
by njitram on Thursday September 03, 2020 @03:17PM
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Ads will definitely not disappear, only the tracking aspect. It will be more contextual ads probably, related to what page your are looking at, less related to you as an individual.
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Re:Apple to delay privacy change threatening Facebook, mobil...
by ocdtrekkie on Thursday September 03, 2020 @03:17PM
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And that is both a user-respecting and effective way to advertise!
Re:Apple to delay privacy change threatening Facebook, mobil...
by dialtone on Thursday September 03, 2020 @03:37PM
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This would have been true for this change as well, clearly if Apple chose a different path means that it's not as clear cut as you imply here. And yeah contextual and stuff is nice but will simply not drive the same revenue for publishers.
Re:Apple to delay privacy change threatening Facebook, mobil...
by ocdtrekkie on Thursday September 03, 2020 @04:00PM
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This isn't true, targeted advertising only gets publishers about 4% more revenue, despite adtech's claims it's over 50%. And when adtech is banned, revenues will stabilize around remaining activity.
Re:Apple to delay privacy change threatening Facebook, mobil...
by dialtone on Thursday September 03, 2020 @05:31PM
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You deliberately choose to ignore all of the studies that disagree with you except the one that you agree with that has very obvious flaws. Here's a summary of the literature[1]. Personalized ads have become popular because they perform better for the buyer, and that makes buyers willing to pay more to show them to their customers. Buyer goals align with conversions. The history of advertising online started with contextual, there is zero evidence to support the claim that revenue will only drop 4% when any company submitting bids for contextual vs personalized ads can show you that the CPMs they are willing to pay can easily be 2-3x if not even higher for high worth users.
[1]: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1juu6UBguR7ru1Rhfyor9...
Re:Apple to delay privacy change threatening Facebook, mobil...
by Yetanfou on Thursday September 03, 2020 @05:40PM
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Ads have effectively disappeared for a number of years now for those who use a sensible approach to ad blocking (i.e. a combination of ingress blocking, DNS blacklists and browser-based blocking). This could change if content providers start using different approaches to ad insertion - e.g. video ads merged into the original content, ads as part of original page content - but even those avenues will be neutered within not too long. It probably makes sense for ad purveyors to not fret too much over ad blocking users since these users often react negatively to advertising and as such are better left alone.
Re:Apple to delay privacy change threatening Facebook, mobil...
by dragonsky67 on Thursday September 03, 2020 @11:42PM
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In most cases I find direct ad insertion (as in ad sponsership of the creator) a lot less offensive than some algorythmetic insertion based on some unknown metric. At least then the creator has to decide if the ad they are running is acceptable in their product.
Re:Apple to delay privacy change threatening Facebook, mobil...
by Yetanfou on Friday September 04, 2020 @11:03AM
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That isn't ad insertion but sponsorship. What I mean is for the server to present a single video stream which does not contain markers to identify advertising content, more or less the way many netcast ads are inserted into the audio stream.
Re:Apple to delay privacy change threatening Facebook, mobil...
by Nextgrid on Thursday September 03, 2020 @10:49PM
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> video ads merged into the original content
That is already a thing and there are already countermeasures: https://sponsor.ajay.app
Re:Apple to delay privacy change threatening Facebook, mobil...
by JoshTriplett on Thursday September 03, 2020 @04:22PM
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> Ads will definitely not disappear, only the tracking aspect.
Ads without tracking are an even less effective business model. We don't have to make ads stop working entirely, we just have to make them sufficiently ineffective that they're not worth paying enough to make ad revenue worthwhile.