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Re:The World Wide Web Is Dead by bitwize on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @02:03AM (#24350434)
We should have listened to Ted Nelson the first time around. For Nelson, hypertext is not just hyperlinked text. It's a permanent repository of text with hyperlinks and transclusions, both being permanent references, and DRM to ensure the rightsholders of linked/transcluded text get automatically remunerated whenever their work is downloaded/read, and a microtransaction system to enable such remuneration.

Tim Berners-Lee thought he could nick just the "good bits" from this model -- or rather, the low-hanging fruit, punting the tricky-to-implement stuff until later -- but you really need all of the parts, otherwise you will have a broken, half-working (if that) system with seams showing all over the place.

It's time to realize that Project Xanadu was the correct way to view hypertext, and compromising on that vision has cost us dearly.

Re:The World Wide Web Is Dead by dacodanelson on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @03:24AM (#24350866)
I am actually working on a follow-up about Ted Nelson and Project Xanadu. I know it never really came to anything, but it's really fascinating the way this brilliant, Memex-like system was what all the visionaries were talking about, and what we got was a giant directory of pseudo-printed pages.
Re:The World Wide Web Is Dead by type0 on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @03:05AM (#24350767)
> really need all of the parts, otherwise you will have a broken, half-working (if that) system

WWW won exactly because it was half finished - extendable and not despite of it, otherwise we would all be using Gopher now.

Re:The World Wide Web Is Dead by bitwize on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @03:35AM (#24350918)
It's one of those things like C that seemed like a good idea at the time, and only with the fullness of time do we come to realize its bone-deep irreparable flaws... but now we're stuck with it effectively forever.
Re:The World Wide Web Is Dead by type0 on Wednesday September 02, 2020 @03:50AM (#24350991)
Worse, it isn't that we stuck with it, but the public have lost control to WHATWG (el Goog & the Gang)