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Re:Airline pilots landing at LAX report “a guy in jetpack” f... by sandworm101 on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @11:40AM (#24342988)
That story is often told but is generally considered apocryphal. There is too much wrong with it procedurally. It's funny, but not likely a conversation that actually happened.
Re:Airline pilots landing at LAX report “a guy in jetpack” f... by larrywright on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @12:47PM (#24343736)
I thought it was apocryphal as well, but this is the pilot who did it. https://youtu.be/8AyHH9G9et0

Not saying it’s impossible that he made it up or embellished, but it seems likely that it actually happened.

Re:Airline pilots landing at LAX report “a guy in jetpack” f... by throwaway3neu94 on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @02:40PM (#24345230)
That video is not a one-off. The guy now works as a motivational speaker doing 2-3 of these SR-71 themed speeches every week (http://galleryonepublishing.com/BlackbirdStores/News.html).

I'm sure he wouldn't let the truth get in the way of a good story.

Re:Airline pilots landing at LAX report “a guy in jetpack” f... by bronson on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @02:32PM (#24345130)
Other sled drivers have noted how fast & loose Shul can be with the facts.
Re:Airline pilots landing at LAX report “a guy in jetpack” f... by larrywright on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @04:20PM (#24346564)
I haven’t looked that far into it, I just watched that video when Youtube recommended it. The written story that I’ve seen online was uncredited, so seeing someone talk about it made it seem more likely to have occurred (at least to me).
Re:Airline pilots landing at LAX report “a guy in jetpack” f... by sandworm101 on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @02:19PM (#24344962)
I would like to know exactly which frequency/airspace he was using that allowed all mentioned parties to hear each other.
Re:Airline pilots landing at LAX report “a guy in jetpack” f... by chinathrow on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @02:54PM (#24345442)
It's not unreasonable that the SR 71 was listening on the frequency of the airspace beneath them - if the're had been an emergency, it's always better to have a picture of who's on the frequency/within that airspace.
Re:Airline pilots landing at LAX report “a guy in jetpack” f... by autisticcurio on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @11:51AM (#24343121)
Dont under estimate what the military get up to. The MK1 Lynx helicopter (Westland Lynx) didnt have a black box flight recorder, and as it had the world speed record, many pilots when entertaining new recruits would attempt to scare the wotsit out of them by flying over the mountain tops of Wales before nose diving the chopper towards the valley floor to see how fast they could get it to go. Noisy! On a par with flying with The Blades who are ex Red Arrow pilots.
Re:Airline pilots landing at LAX report “a guy in jetpack” f... by CPLX on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @12:24PM (#24343480)
What's the procedural problem with it?

It's possibly a little too cute or maybe embellished, but there's nothing in it that sounds impossible or beyond plausibility.

For reference I have a pilot's license.

Re:Airline pilots landing at LAX report “a guy in jetpack” f... by OJFord on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @12:50PM (#24343777)
The upthread-linked Reddit debunk [0] is A) SR71 would've been on a different frequency to both other planes; B) ATC computers at the time were capped at 990 knots; C) SR71s' speeds were classified, no way the crew would've asked or ATC responded with it.

Unfortunately.

https://np.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/8x5ndw/til_wh...

Re:Airline pilots landing at LAX report “a guy in jetpack” f... by kitteh on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @01:04PM (#24343984)
Correct, people keep repeating this story - it's false. I know controllers who have actually controlled the U2 and SR71 and they've explained why it's not true (they don't use the same freq, etc.).

Also Brian Shul (the originator of this anecdote) and his RSO were the only SR71 crew removed from the program. There is a reason for that.

Re:Airline pilots landing at LAX report “a guy in jetpack” f... by ultrarunner on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @02:40PM (#24345225)
Would you mind explaining the reason? His Wikipedia page [0] doesn't mention anything, although it does mention the story with four citations. One explicitly states "Though they didn’t really control us, they did monitor our movement across their scope." [1]

Off topic, but be sure to run Javascript on theaviationgeekclub.com or else the code that breaks your clipboard will fail to run.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Shul

[1] https://theaviationgeekclub.com/sr-71-blackbird-pilot-tells-...

Re:Airline pilots landing at LAX report “a guy in jetpack” f... by dkersten on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @04:18PM (#24346539)
Re:Airline pilots landing at LAX report “a guy in jetpack” f... by jki275 on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @07:38PM (#24348391)
The SR-71's top speed is still classified to this day, partly because they probably still don't know what it was, because nobody ever got one there. Shul's plane was cruising probably far below max speed (the number wasn't 1942, I don't remember exactly what he said it was).

As to "not using the same freq", military aircraft have radios with knobs that turn. They can certainly monitor and talk on civilian frequencies if they see fit to do so, and they fly in and out of civilian airports regularly on ferry flights (not the SR-71 obviously, but I know for a fact F-18s do all the time, because I used to stand duty at a command that owned a bunch of them and we had to file reports on what airport they were at). If they can't talk on civilian frequencies, how would that work? And they fly through civilian ATC owned airspace, they absolutely have to talk to civilian ATC.

As to Shul being removed from the program, have never heard that -- I'm not likely to take the word of some random on the internet about it.

Re:Airline pilots landing at LAX report “a guy in jetpack” f... by kitteh on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @08:17PM (#24348663)
They used UHF to talk to ATC.

Related post: https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/archive/index.php/t-56350...

Re:Airline pilots landing at LAX report “a guy in jetpack” f... by dkersten on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @04:08PM (#24346409)
> SR71s' speeds were classified

Even after the transatlantic world record "fastest air-breathing manned aircraft" flights in 1976? Especially if they were flying below the record speeds (depends on the exact numbers, going by wikipedia, the record was for approx. 1905 knots, which of course is lower than the figure in the story)?

(But, yeah, I've heard plenty of people, including other SR71 pilots in interviews, question the validity of Shul's stories)

Re:Airline pilots landing at LAX report “a guy in jetpack” f... by jki275 on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @07:40PM (#24348402)
The SR-71's "speeds" are not classified. You can even download the long ago declassified manual that says what the max mach number it can display is.

The actual top speed might still be, if it is, it's probably because they don't actually know what it really is. There have been multiple pilots who have said they could pretty much keep giving it gas and it would keep going faster.

Re:Airline pilots landing at LAX report “a guy in jetpack” f... by CPLX on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @05:34PM (#24347367)
Well if someone on reddit said it convincingly it’s settled.
Re:Airline pilots landing at LAX report “a guy in jetpack” f... by OJFord on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @06:28PM (#24347867)
Come on, I didn't claim that. I responded to 'someone on HN claiming to have a pilots licence' who couldn't see a reason it wasn't plausible. I'm just offering three anti-plausability reasons someone else on the internet had.