What's to stop the companies from claiming they just happen to want to remove the speech of their own volition? If the CEO of TikTok says he doesn't want "free Tibet" on his platform because he wants to be on good terms with China, not because China specifically told him to censor it, is that his freedom?
Re:Why we are suing the Administration
by AnthonyMouse on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @11:49AM
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> What's to stop the companies from claiming they just happen to want to remove the speech of their own volition?
The fact that they would have no choice if they were subject to China's jurisdiction. You can't choose to do something you're being forced to do, therefore if you do it, it wasn't your choice.
Re:Why we are suing the Administration
by jimothyhalpert7 on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @12:38PM
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> The fact that they would have no choice if they were subject to China's jurisdiction.
Wouldn't the reverse be true in the US? Assume that actually supported China's radical opinions, while being subject to US jurisdiction - wouldn't they be forced out of business? Isn't that what's going on now?
> You can't choose to do something you're being forced to do, therefore if you do it, it wasn't your choice.
Re:Why we are suing the Administration
by joshuamorton on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @12:17PM
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I have at least two options: comply or exit the jurisdiction. It is my choice to do the former.
Re:Why we are suing the Administration
by RandoHolmes on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @11:47AM
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actions speak louder than words here.
Re:Why we are suing the Administration
by joshuamorton on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @12:16PM
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Would you say that an EU law restricting companies from complying with a US warrant is restricting the companies, or the US?
(In practice the way this is done is with data location rules, that EU data must be stored in the EU, which is clearly a restriction on the way the company operates)
Putting aside whether or not this is nonsense to begin with, it certainly doesn't apply to China, which is a government. A law requiring companies serving the US market to not comply with censorship by China is restricting what China can do, not what those companies can do. The companies then have a problem if they exist in two jurisdictions which now have conflicting laws, but they can solve it by moving out of whichever jurisdiction they please.