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Re:Why we are suing the Administration by smt88 on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @09:44AM (#24341644)
I'm sorry you're sick of the First Amendment. Private companies have it just like you do.

The remedy is to break up the big forums, not to take away the rights of their owners.

Re:Why we are suing the Administration by brandonmenc on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @10:13AM (#24341906)
> not to take away the rights of their owners

Why not? We have granted ourselves the right to limit the rights of corporations.

The individual owners can keep their individual rights.

Re:Why we are suing the Administration by smt88 on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @11:30AM (#24342862)
The Supreme Court has repeatedly ruled that corporations have 1st Amendment rights.

You have to remember that "corporation" can mean any group organized for a purpose. It can be Exxon, but it can also be Planned Parenthood or AARP.

People who can't speak loudly enough by themselves have a right to organize into a corporation, pool their money, and speak loudly together.

You can argue that a business should not be both a commercial enterprise and a holder of 1st Amendment rights, but that's not what the law says. And anyway, it would be an impossible line to draw.

Re:Why we are suing the Administration by brandonmenc on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @01:22PM (#24344207)
> corporations have 1st Amendment rights.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't forbidding them from censoring user content orthogonal to this?

Re:Why we are suing the Administration by smt88 on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @03:27PM (#24345920)
I was responding only to a single previous post[1]. If you think it's out of context, take it up with them, I guess.

1. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24341525

Re:Why we are suing the Administration by RandoHolmes on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @11:48AM (#24343071)
It would be no more impossible than having a non-profit, it would just require a new legal status.
Re:Why we are suing the Administration by smt88 on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @03:28PM (#24345932)
Non-profits are a tax status, not a legal status.
Re:Why we are suing the Administration by RandoHolmes on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @06:51PM (#24348057)
You say potato, I say potahto...

Turns out tax status is enforced by laws. Weird, I know.

"well akshually...". just don't.

Re:Why we are suing the Administration by kube-system on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @10:09AM (#24341857)
If we’re still talking about TikTok here, the concern is that they don’t have the right to free speech — that the rights on their platform is coopted by a government power.
Re:Why we are suing the Administration by platz on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @11:04AM (#24342556)
This simply isn't an issue regarding the first-amendment; not sure this thread needs to go into the philosophical dilemma on this here.
Re:Why we are suing the Administration by kube-system on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @11:08AM (#24342602)
Correct, it is an issue regarding the lack of Chinese speech rights. The US constitution is irrelevant in China.

Human rights, however, are natural rights.

Re:Why we are suing the Administration by smt88 on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @11:27AM (#24342834)
I'm not still talking about TikTok. I support banning Chinese social networks or any network where China has censorship power (either explicit or through back doors).

I was responding narrowly about the idea that "free speech" demands that the US govt can force companies to choose what to publish.

Forcing a company to stop operating here is an entirely different concept.