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Re:Why Doctors Hate Their Computers (2018) by forbiddenvoid on Monday August 31, 2020 @10:23PM (#24337947)
Doctors like to think they are among the most technology-avid people in society.

In fact, my experience with doctors (coming from a place where I worked closely with them specifically on IT matters) is that doctors believe that because they're good at medicine that they are good at everything, specifically making good business decisions and understanding and correctly using technology.

Re:Why Doctors Hate Their Computers (2018) by rscho on Monday August 31, 2020 @10:35PM (#24338010)
This is the same with lots of professions. Software developers are also like that, and this can be verified every day on this very forum.
Re:Why Doctors Hate Their Computers (2018) by throwaway0a5e on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @07:50AM (#24340755)
Damn near every time a subject that isn't software that I have good personal knowledge of comes up there's I notice a few big grayed out walls of well thought out and nuanced text.

The worst cases seem to be when there's an article (seems like it's always on Medium) about some complicated multi-part technical thing going wrong, a top level comment slings blame around as if they know exactly where to sling it and uses a PopSci understanding of the subject matter to justify it. Then someone who actually knows the relevant industry says "well actually it's a little more nuanced", proceeds to explain and then gets down-voted and flagged for it. Seems like a great way to send the message that technical knowledge and experience is not welcome here if it's going to go against whatever the convenient narrative is. What it definitely doesn't do is instill trust in comments about things I am less familiar in.

Re:Why Doctors Hate Their Computers (2018) by pnutjam on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @09:00AM (#24341275)
Nobody wants to hear from the guy who admits he doesn't know everything. They want the opinion from the guy who is still on mount stupid and knows just enough to think he know everything about the subject.

He sounds more confident.

Re:Why Doctors Hate Their Computers (2018) by Cthulhu_ on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @03:39AM (#24339425)
I like to think I've gotten over myself pretty fast and will now freely admit that I know nothing and suck at everything.

Tongue-in-cheek of course, there's no need to downplay your own abilities and knowledge. But if anything, I'm no longer feeling like I'm missing out in the rat race. I'm missing out on the whole AI / machine learning thing but that's all right because it just doesn't pique my interest.

Re:Why Doctors Hate Their Computers (2018) by risyachka on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @12:52AM (#24338672)
True, I am a software developer and I am just like that! But I am trying to fight it really hard.
Re:Why Doctors Hate Their Computers (2018) by wmeredith on Monday August 31, 2020 @10:35PM (#24338011)
> doctors believe that because they're good at medicine that they are good at everything

Reminds me of hackers :P

Re:Why Doctors Hate Their Computers (2018) by soonix on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @06:13AM (#24340146)
Iurisprudentia est scientia omnium rerum, humanorum atque divinarum

jurisprudence is the science of everything, both human and divine

:-)

Re:Why Doctors Hate Their Computers (2018) by billfruit on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @10:06AM (#24341826)
Not exactly related, is it that perhaps doctors are one of the major professions where there is not much of an audit or continuous review of outcomes once they are appointed?

Perhaps there needs to be some type of continuous formal evaluation system as is applied to airline pilots.

Re:Why Doctors Hate Their Computers (2018) by tomc1985 on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @12:06AM (#24338462)
We are all stupid. Every single one of us. There is not a single human being on this planet that is truly "smart"
Re:Why Doctors Hate Their Computers (2018) by throwaway98797 on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @03:15AM (#24339289)
Doctors are encouraged to communicate with certainty. Breeds? Selects? For arrogance. Other professions apperciate and display uncertainty. Most scientists speak of confidence intervals.
Re:Why Doctors Hate Their Computers (2018) by rscho on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @03:36AM (#24339406)
The most pretentious people I ever met are scientists. Mathematicians, specifically.

You are being unfair. Show offs are found everywhere, and all in all docs are not particularly worse than many others such as scientists, economists, CEOs, whatever...

Re:Why Doctors Hate Their Computers (2018) by alexanderdmitri on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @03:31AM (#24339376)
I don't know, I think we are all smart. Every single one of us. There are a few exceptions, but nearly all human beings on this planet are truly "smart" compared to all other known, non-human beings.

Unless this is one of those "everything's weird and 'normal' is particularly weird" arguments.

If so I agree that "everything's stupid and therefore it's especially stupid to think anything could be 'smart'"

Re:Why Doctors Hate Their Computers (2018) by pc86 on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @10:28AM (#24342090)
> nearly all human beings on this planet are truly "smart" compared to all other known, non-human beings.

This is like telling someone in poverty "well you're actually in the top 1% of worldwide income, and the top 0.1% of all-time worldwide income, so things are pretty great!"

It's true, but it's a useless thing to say.

Re:Why Doctors Hate Their Computers (2018) by arethuza on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @05:51AM (#24340033)
In my experience it's usually very intelligent people who manage to display moments of epic weapons-grade stupidity - usually through sheer hubris.
Re:Why Doctors Hate Their Computers (2018) by throwaway0a5e on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @07:53AM (#24340773)
People are smart. What they don't always have is good information or the ability to know what they don't know.

I'm very weary of "people are dumb" arguments because they seem to lead to "and that's why we should dumb down our product, remove their freedom and treat them like crap" with an alarming regularity.

Re:Why Doctors Hate Their Computers (2018) by agumonkey on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @06:38AM (#24340296)
Brings two things in mind:

- polymathy, don't specialize too much, it's good to walk in other fields

- listen, being able to discuss, see the situation from all parties POV, exchange well

It's indeed rare to find this, also, I tried being less stuck up and listen but you quickly get stomped on by less knowledgeable but more dominant minds, it's tiresome.

Re:Why Doctors Hate Their Computers (2018) by eru on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @06:04AM (#24340090)
There are still differences between people.