Cloth masks do protect the wearer

Re:Cloth masks do protect the wearer by cbsks on Monday August 31, 2020 @07:48PM (#24337073)

I stand corrected! I had forgotten that the Surgeon General said that.

My theory is that when people think that the guidance has radically shifted throughout the COVID-19 epidemic, it's because they are getting their information from non-authoritative sources. But like your example, sometimes the "authoritative sources" are super wrong.

Dr Fauci did eventually admit that the guidance on masks was not optimal:

> "We have to admit it, that that mixed message in the beginning, even though it was well meant to allow masks to be available for health workers, that was detrimental in getting the message across," Fauci said in an interview with Mary Louise Kelly of NPR's All Things Considered. "No doubt about it."

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/07/01/8862991...

What about your points 2 and 3?

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Re:Cloth masks do protect the wearer by misanthropian00 on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @06:50AM (#24340362)

>Dr Fauci did eventually admit that the guidance on masks was not optimal:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRa6t_e7dgI

That is Dr Fauci himself on 60 minutes in early March saying that Americans should not be wearing masks. I guess he changed his mind. People want to say, "Yes he changed his mind due to new evidence." Ok what evidence? I want to see it. And it better be from just before they changed their views and not after they changed their views.

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Re:Cloth masks do protect the wearer by renewiltord on Monday August 31, 2020 @08:15PM (#24337206)

Points 2 and 3 are HN responses to my comments or adjacent ones. It's going to be a bit hard to find them now, but I'll post them at the bottom. Listen, I really don't want to Gish Gallop you, but there's no way for me to claim people were saying this without showing you people saying this: (and there are way more people saying this on Reddit and Twitter, but time is short, so I can't do any more research for you)

0: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22777170 (claims that training is required or you're going to get rekt, read thread)

1: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22776396 (while doesn't claim a no-threshold model, the threshold is a hundred viral particles)

2: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22735235

3: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22734656

4: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22734923

5: https://twitter.com/WHOWPRO/status/1243171683067777024?s=20 (the WHO saying not to wear a mask, by the way)

6: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22530340

7: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22610180

8: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22595955

9: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22559272

10: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22528527

11: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22529273

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Re:Cloth masks do protect the wearer by cbsks on Monday August 31, 2020 @08:36PM (#24337322)

Ah, I misread your original post. I thought you were talking about the official recommendations being wrong and then changing. The "general public shouldn't wear masks" is one example where the guidance changed, but I'd argue that overall it's been relatively consistent.

If you are just looking for random people on the Internet being wrong, then yes, there are lots of examples of that!

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Re:Cloth masks do protect the wearer by renewiltord on Monday August 31, 2020 @08:45PM (#24337386)

Well, it started with the officials because let's just say we're not working with very good raw material here. It's like the tar sands, you know. We have the tar sands, some other guys have shale, and some others have some delicious light crude.

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Re:Cloth masks do protect the wearer by cbsks on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @12:52PM (#24343796)

I agree 100%. The US's response to this entire pandemic was, and still is, a cluster fsck. A lot misinformation could have been prevented with strong and consistent leadership.

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