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Re:Interchange in Houston is the same size as an entire city... by rsynnott on Monday August 31, 2020 @02:29PM (#24334459)
I think you have to detach the idea of _personal_ blame from it. They're both phenomena which cause problems.
Re:Interchange in Houston is the same size as an entire city... by xvedejas on Monday August 31, 2020 @02:37PM (#24334563)
I've always seen gentrification as more a symptom of a problem, rather than a problem itself. After all, it's not the appearance of a higher economic class that's bad; it's the forceful displacement of the lower economic class, which may or may not follow. I've seen both scenarios play out in both urban and suburban areas, depending a ton on willingness to allow new construction and pre-existing home ownership rates.
Re:Interchange in Houston is the same size as an entire city... by matthewowen on Monday August 31, 2020 @04:04PM (#24335387)
The displacement effect of gentrification is potentially overstated: https://www.philadelphiafed.org/-/media/community-developmen... is an interesting study.

In that case, vulnerable populations in gentrifying neighborhoods were no more likely to leave than equivalent populations in non-gentrifying neighborhoods.

For me, the obvious mechanism is that, well, it's true that people who leave may often blame gentrification / increased costs for their departure. But on the other side of it, without gentrification people may still have left, but for different reasons: to get away from crime, to go somewhere with more amenities. It's possible that these two tendencies somewhat balance each other out.

Re:Interchange in Houston is the same size as an entire city... by rtkwe on Monday August 31, 2020 @04:22PM (#24335541)
Seems like the way to disentangle the two is to look a the people replacing those that move out. If they're roughly the same economically then it's the churn of being a poor person in a capitalist society if the income is going up particularly if it's a sharp increase and rents are rising then it's gentrification.
Re:Interchange in Houston is the same size as an entire city... by nostrebored on Tuesday September 01, 2020 @02:05AM (#24338998)
This is a restatement of the point you're replying to.

The question is which of these is worse for the people living in the area.

Re:Interchange in Houston is the same size as an entire city... by nickff on Monday August 31, 2020 @02:48PM (#24334683)
The harmful displacement effects of gentrification are really a symptom of unresponsive city planning and zoning. If governments were more flexible and faster to adapt to changing circumstances, gentrification could have been positive-sum.
Re:Interchange in Houston is the same size as an entire city... by pessimizer on Monday August 31, 2020 @03:14PM (#24334944)
The appearance of a higher economic class leads to lopsided political power. It's the lopsided political power that then leads to the displacement of the lower economic class from any desirable area.
Re:Interchange in Houston is the same size as an entire city... by refurb on Monday August 31, 2020 @03:47PM (#24335244)
Really? Look at the Mission in SF. You can’t build anything without Calle 24’s approval. Projects aren’t getting shutdown by the wealthy.
Re:Interchange in Houston is the same size as an entire city... by refurb on Monday August 31, 2020 @03:45PM (#24335230)
Seems like one could find problems with anything people do.