Don't Be a Sucker

Re:Don't Be a Sucker by 1-more on Monday August 31, 2020 @02:25PM (#24334402)

There is not a major political party in the US that advocates for an employment guarantee, banning private property, or withdrawing all armed forces from around the world. These are positions you would expect from a range of left parties in a parliamentary system. There is however a party that wants to let your employer fire you for any reason whatsoever. It's not even close.

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Re:Don't Be a Sucker by AlexTWithBeard on Monday August 31, 2020 @02:46PM (#24334652)

> banning private property, or withdrawing all armed forces from around the world

US democratic party is not a flock of angels... but they're certainly not idiots.

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Re:Don't Be a Sucker by rtx on Monday August 31, 2020 @03:00PM (#24334797)

Maybe just start by not protecting war criminals.

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Re:Don't Be a Sucker by groby_b on Monday August 31, 2020 @03:01PM (#24334809)

This has of course nothing to do with the original question, where they fall on the spectrum of political opinions.

The democrats are roughly center-right when you look at it in comparison to major countries across the world. See e.g. https://qz.com/1748903/how-2020-us-democratic-candidates-com...

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Re:Don't Be a Sucker by AlexTWithBeard on Monday August 31, 2020 @03:32PM (#24335144)

Right, but what kind of conclusion can be made here? Is US too right? Or Europe is too left? Or both are off and the optimal society requires much lefter/righter policies?

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Re:Don't Be a Sucker by groby_b on Monday August 31, 2020 @04:14PM (#24335477)

I'm not sure you can draw any conclusion here. (Except, seemingly, "I don't like this, don't have any rational argument, and so should downvote" ;)

The only one that you can make, based on the data, is that US politics trend much further right than many other places, and that talking about "Democrats" and "the left" in the same breath doesn't make any sense in a global context. They just aren't.

And I think that is very relevant when you want to talk about US politics. It defines the available spectrum.

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Re:Don't Be a Sucker by anm89 on Monday August 31, 2020 @07:48PM (#24337075)

Where outside of North Korea, Stalin or Mao had abolished private property or has a full employment guarantee?

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Re:Don't Be a Sucker by anm89 on Monday August 31, 2020 @07:47PM (#24337068)

> advocates for an employment guarantee, banning private property

Why would there be? These are ridiculous goals. North Korea has open doors if you want to defect. I've heard it's pretty nice over there.

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Re:Don't Be a Sucker by Chlorus on Monday August 31, 2020 @02:36PM (#24334555)

"There is not a major political party in the US that advocates for an employment guarantee, banning private property, or withdrawing all armed forces from around the world. These are positions you would expect from a range of left parties in a parliamentary system."

That's a pretty loose definition of 'major'.

Parliamentary systems sound pretty shitty then - keep in mind the Golden Dawn, UKIP, and any one of the perennial "let's deport all the Roma" parties also counts as a major political party under your definition.

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