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Re:Do-it-Yourself Vaccines for Covid-19 by dcolkitt on Monday August 31, 2020 @10:52AM (#24332031)
I mean, there's plenty of recreational activities where the participant has a pretty good chance of losing their arm or worse. Nobody seems to argue about the legality, let alone the ethics of BASE jumping, wingsuiting, free solo climbing, or technical diving.

And unlike scientific experimentation, these don't even come with any sort of broader social benefit. We let consenting adults mix wildly speculative breathing gasses so they can dive 500 feet underwater. Pretty much for no other reason than it's cool. Why not let scientists do the same if it might cure a pandemic that's killed millions?

Re:Do-it-Yourself Vaccines for Covid-19 by diffeomorphism on Monday August 31, 2020 @11:54AM (#24332688)
free solo climbing in the office building?

The point is that the university is providing equipment and allows this to take place in their labs.

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Re:Do-it-Yourself Vaccines for Covid-19 by pvaldes on Monday August 31, 2020 @11:57AM (#24332709)
> Why not let scientists be the leaders of our new meritocratic fascist regime?

Yup, it looks like a clear case of Scientist-itis to me. I had seen that before. Too much superhero histories.

Why would want the scientists to take part into such creepy thing? Do you really thing that they are so weird and creepy?

Re:Do-it-Yourself Vaccines for Covid-19 by sunopener on Monday August 31, 2020 @07:11PM (#24336808)
Sec.. Let me just slice up, dissect, and pin this frog's guts neatly and artistically outside it's dead body.

Now, you were saying something about weird and creepy? There's nothing creepy and weird about eugenics, fascism, nor meritocracy. Eugenics was widely accepted well before the "not-see" perversion as a way to better humanity.

You know what's really creepy? Stories and thier Storytellers. Facts/Truth, never creepy. Stories, always creepy.

Re:Do-it-Yourself Vaccines for Covid-19 by pvaldes on Monday August 31, 2020 @08:20PM (#24337234)
> Let me just slice up, dissect, and pin this frog's guts neatly and artistically outside it's dead body.

Or we could ban the study of amphibian malformations and diseases by ideological reasons, and cry for all the frog species in the planet that will go extinct by ranavirus in the next five years. All because we didn't have galls to dissect a small dead animal and do something about it.

Would you prefer that, maybe?

Re:Do-it-Yourself Vaccines for Covid-19 by sudosysgen on Monday August 31, 2020 @11:52AM (#24332667)
Wait, that's a huge leap from allowing scientists to experiment with their own, personal bodies, and a fascist eugenicist technocratic regime.
Re:Do-it-Yourself Vaccines for Covid-19 by sunopener on Monday August 31, 2020 @07:13PM (#24336818)
If you wait too long, it won't be cool anymore.