Re:Do we really travel through time with the speed of light?
by dnautics on Monday August 31, 2020 @10:56AM
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> That is, if I fire Alice light beam at you from a moving train, while Bob fires a beam at you from a platform, both beams will reach you at the same time.
That's wrong. Simultaneity is ill-defined in relativity.
The correct example is, "if Alice fires a light beam at you from a moving train and Bob fires a light beam from you from the platform, you will measure the Alice photons as going equally fast as the Bob photons.
Re:Do we really travel through time with the speed of light?
by tsimionescu on Monday August 31, 2020 @11:13AM
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Absolute simultaneity is ill-defined, but simultaneity in my frame of reference does exist.
However, you're right, your formulation is more precise, and actually possible to measure.
Re:Do we really travel through time with the speed of light?
by awongh on Monday August 31, 2020 @08:06AM
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I recently learned this and it blew my mind because it had never occurred to me.
Another way to put it is that when you’re in a moving bus and you throw a ball towards the front of the bus, the ball is moving the speed you threw it plus the speed of the bus, but, when you shine a light, the photons from the light are moving the same speed as someone off the bus! That seems super weird.
Re:Do we really travel through time with the speed of light?
by davrosthedalek on Monday August 31, 2020 @08:14AM
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Exactly. Now build a clock by bouncing the light between two mirrors, and think about how the clock looks like in the bus, and outside of the bus. -> special relativity.
This was a gigantic problem, an experiment contradicting one of the most fundamental laws of nature as we knew them at the time - Galileo Galilei's principle of relativity.
Note that this observation has nothing to do with our eyes's ability to perceive light. The same observation will not happen with sound waves; and it will hold even for frequencies of light that we can't directly observe with our bodies, such as radio waves.
As others note, it was later discovered that this is not a special property of light itself. It is in fact a special property of the universe, and it applies to any particle without mass; the photon happens to be the only massless particle that we can directly observe, so it was the one which gave the name to the physical quantity.