Facebook is a company that makes a profit off of engagement, even if that engagement is driven by hate. Facebook alone chooses what they promote on their platform. It is not some kind of mirror that just reflects what goes on in society, it is a company that distorts the truth, outrages and pushes paid propaganda on its users in order to turn a profit.
In India they choose the side of the govt, political party and an ideology, it’s again a reflection of the kind of staff managing Facebook in India and although they are duty bound to punish such staff they rewarded them and still defending them to secure the market and profits.
The opposite of Hitlerism is not Jews getting revenge on the Germans, it is liberalism. There is no room for whataboutism, because liberalism is not about showing how "they" are more evil than "us", because there is no "us" and "them".
And your point is ?
My grandmom managed to escape from Bangladesh violence, smuggled hidden amongst cattle.
I don't see how that justifies fascist and Hindu supremacist policies in India.
Treatment of Kashmiri pandits is a favorite talking point of the Hindu right. They are remarkably silent about other violent and forced population movement brought about by Hindus upon Hindus. Bengalis evicted violently from Assam did not spend time collectively moping about it but built their life somewhere else.
Hindu right talks about Kashmiri Pandits because nobody else does. Can you tell me why we must keep silent about their ethnic cleansing?
I cannot because I have not asked anyone to be silent about it. What I find 'moping' is refusal to move on by people who have the wherewithal to do so. Bengalis (my family included) have been persecuted with violence in many places [East Pakistan, Assam, Bihar for example]. I don't see them doing the analogue of Kashmiri pandits.
> Would you consider talking about the Holocaust as moping?
I certainly take issues with portraying Jewish holocaust as something special, and placing that as a talking point that lies above other genocides. I say this in spite of a handmade Anne Frank poster that hangs in my room.
The place where I went to school in the US the local right wing Jewish community raised a big fuss when another community showcased a violent and lethal part of their history using a symbolic display of shoes. Their claim was that genocide and such symbolic displays are an exclusive right that they own. This I totally reject.
After Mumbai 26/11 happened, I went to attend a vigil mourning the death of Jewish people killed in the terror attack. I was quite disappointed by the rhetoric displayed there. Not a word was said about Indian people who were killed in the attack. It was all about how Jewish people have been hounded everywhere. The implication being India is also such a place. This is particularly ironic because Jewish immigrants have enjoyed the greatest goodwill for centuries in India. You would know that Jewish settlements in India go far back in time than European settlements and that anti-Jewish narrative is an European thing that has no counterpart in India.
I generally dislike the narrative 'I am a victimized helpless snowflake who did nobody no wrong' whenever anyone plays that less than truthfully.
Bring the history to light, get reparations when applicable, and move on when one is in a position to do so.
Stop thinking in terms of "X are the real victims", "Y are the real aggressors". It leads to a never-ending cycle of hatred and violence. Everyone is human, everyone deserves protection, and everyone is capable of doing good and evil at different times and in different places.
GP didn't say "all Hindus" and they definitely didn't say "Hindus outside India", which is who you're talking about.
Your ancestors experienced "persecution of a minority" in their homelands, and that's what GP is also referring to. It is always wrong, no matter who the persecutor is and who the minority is. But it's possible for people of Group A to be the minority in one place and the persecutor in another. Sometimes it's the same individuals, because they want revenge. But often it's people saying "Well what we're doing isn't so bad, did you hear they do X bad thing to our people in other countries?" These are destructive patterns of thought - they corrode societies and nations. Focus on making the place where you live positive, happy, and peaceful instead of pointing fingers.
This comment thread is about India, so GP was talking about persecution of minorities there.
Also why should the treatment of Hindu minorities in Pakistan and Bangladesh shouldn't be up for discussion? All of these are part of the same historical narrative. Just because Muslims created a separate country and expelled most Hindus from there doesn't mean we should stop talking about it.
Agree that Facebook should act decisively to say no to things which incites violence and suppress the voice of minority.
The least it can do is to remove people immediately in the company who appear in slightest to promote or ignore hate and violent information on platform resulting in loss of life. Here Facebook is duty bound to act internally within its company to make sure it’s staff are responsible for their actions. I don’t see any of this indeed the whole Facebook team in India who did it are promoted based on research in WSJ and this article. Getting cozy with richest man closer to right wing is just to secure profits and market at the expense of principles.
Also right wing politics in India enjoys a substantial support, especially the Hitler style (reflected in many govt decisions). Facebook is just reflection of what’s in the society at present. Majority of the people are happy that a temple built will make India no. 1 in the world, talks and real actions on COVID-19 has become boring and not important as it inches towards no. 1 in the world for COVID-19 infections.