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Re:Facebook’s ties to India’s ruling party complicate its fi... by roenxi on Saturday August 29, 2020 @09:03AM (#24315796)
It is a strategically risky move for Facebook to take an active role in shaping India's political landscape. I imagine that the Indian population might object to American companies deciding what is and isn't appropriate to discuss.
Re:Facebook’s ties to India’s ruling party complicate its fi... by actuator on Saturday August 29, 2020 @04:35PM (#24319237)
FB's motivation at the end of day is money, they will cater to demands of any ruling org. For long time Zuck was doing trips to PRC to cozy up to CCP.

I went through the article and while I don't rule out the possibility of ideological bias in an org, it seems that they are reaching for it a bit. Like the first instance itself that was mentioned in the article.

> Facebook said in a statement to TIME. “We failed to remove upon initial review, which was a mistake on our part.”

I am not a FB employee but if they have a two step process for removing some posts and say the second step in some cases is creating an issue on the ticketing system. By Occam's razor the simplest explanation can be easily that what FB is saying is the truth, in mid/big companies, issue trackers can easily be the places where things can go to die.

I have personally seen issues being left unaddressed for years. It can happen, and if we pick selective instances to paint a story, it might not be the complete picture.

Though as I mentioned earlier as well, they very well can have a bias if they have hired individuals with the same ideological background which is true for all types of orgs including old media houses.

Re:Facebook’s ties to India’s ruling party complicate its fi... by commoner on Saturday August 29, 2020 @07:01PM (#24320028)
There's more concrete evidence of Facebook's political bias in the Wall Street Journal report mentioned in the article.

> Yet Mr. Singh, a member of Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s Hindu nationalist party, is still active on Facebook and Instagram, where he has hundreds of thousands of followers. The company’s top public-policy executive in the country, Ankhi Das, opposed applying the hate-speech rules to Mr. Singh and at least three other Hindu nationalist individuals and groups flagged internally for promoting or participating in violence, said the current and former employees.

> Ms. Das, whose job also includes lobbying India’s government on Facebook’s behalf, told staff members that punishing violations by politicians from Mr. Modi’s party would damage the company’s business prospects in the country, Facebook’s biggest global market by number of users, the current and former employees said.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/facebook-hate-speech-india-poli...

Re:Facebook’s ties to India’s ruling party complicate its fi... by Barrin92 on Saturday August 29, 2020 @09:33AM (#24315956)
Inciting ethnic violence was one of the official reasons why TikTok was banned in the country, so surely nobody can object to applying the same Indian standards to Facebook communication, right? Not to mention India already has hate speech laws, so I don't see how Facebook enforcing them on their platform would be anyhting else than complying with... Indian law.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_speech_laws_in_India

Re:Facebook’s ties to India’s ruling party complicate its fi... by ra7 on Saturday August 29, 2020 @03:28PM (#24318778)
> Inciting ethnic violence was one of the official reasons why TikTok was banned in the country

Source? Tiktok ban was a geopolitical play due to recent India-China tensions and the reason given was "national security". Here's the official press release: https://pib.gov.in/PressReleseDetailm.aspx?PRID=1635206

Re:Facebook’s ties to India’s ruling party complicate its fi... by saagarjha on Saturday August 29, 2020 @03:53PM (#24318939)
People incite ethnic violence regardless of the platform they use to spread their message. Hate speech laws in India just seem to be a convenient way for the government to crack down on websites and services it doesn’t like at arbitrary times.
Re:Facebook’s ties to India’s ruling party complicate its fi... by dheera on Saturday August 29, 2020 @04:40PM (#24319269)
I've always wondered why Facebook's role in the US elections is such a hotly debated topic but Facebook's role in the elections of all the other democracies in the world is not touched upon at all.
Re:Facebook’s ties to India’s ruling party complicate its fi... by retrac on Saturday August 29, 2020 @04:55PM (#24319367)
It's certainly a topic for discussion in the other democracies. Before COVID-19 sent everything haywire, Canada's parliament was holding sessions on the question of American electoral interference on social media.

Once it's back on track, Mark Zuckerberg and Facebook's management have a good chance of having arrest warrants issued if they don't start actually testifying and cooperating.

Re:Facebook’s ties to India’s ruling party complicate its fi... by pjc50 on Saturday August 29, 2020 @04:52PM (#24319343)
Well, that's because news coverage and forums are very heavily biased towards reporting on the US. Even in non-US countries.

There has been some discussion of the effects of Cambridge Analytica on the Brexit referendum and UK elections. However, in the UK, traditional media ownership and cronyism is more of a serious problem.

Re:Facebook’s ties to India’s ruling party complicate its fi... by whoevercares on Saturday August 29, 2020 @07:46PM (#24320214)
Most people hold double/triple standards
Re:Facebook’s ties to India’s ruling party complicate its fi... by thewhitetulip on Saturday August 29, 2020 @11:35PM (#24321162)
Indian population is brainwashed by the party with which FB sided

How you ask? The media commonly called as Modi Media blames EVERYTHING on the opposing parties

India is#1 in corona casesper day, who is to blame? Congress. Why? They are soreading fear!

And now they've started using a suicide by a Film actor to stop corona news altogether.

If you look at Hindi and English news they're focused on spreading conspiracies about a dead guy and his girlfriend like gf smoked drugs etc

Re:Facebook’s ties to India’s ruling party complicate its fi... by pagan42 on Sunday August 30, 2020 @12:56PM (#24324062)
>Indian population is brainwashed by the party with which FB sided

Just because the Indian population has realized what rubbish the Indian Congress party, it's affiliates were ( basically a KGB satellite) doesn't mean they are brainwashed.

Just because Indian population doesn't like the game where all the money is for select few and rest are all poor ( communism) doesn't mean it's brainwashed.

Just because Indian population doesn't reward the those who refuse to condemn the ethnic cleansing of pagans/non monotheists doesn't mean it's brainwashed.

Just people you can label Indian population as brainwashed doesn't mean it is.

Re:Facebook’s ties to India’s ruling party complicate its fi... by thewhitetulip on Monday August 31, 2020 @08:27AM (#24330730)
Name one quarter under Modi govt where GDP was above 9.9

I van quote 2 quarters under Congress when GDP was 10

Under Modiji unemployment is at a 45yr high!

GDP is at a 5yr low and the economy is being driven underground and the new lows are beating the old lows with utter incompetence shown by the central govt.

Also we are now the #1 country by new cases. We are the only Asian country where Corona is out of control

If Congress was rubbish and we voted thes morons to power, I want rubbish congress back

Re:Facebook’s ties to India’s ruling party complicate its fi... by Mediterraneo10 on Saturday August 29, 2020 @10:05AM (#24316183)
"I imagine that the Indian population might object to American companies..."

Does the average Indian person even consciously reflect on Facebook being an American company? I get the impression that for so much of the developing world where Facebook/Whatsapp/Instagram are just about the only internet people know (because these sites don’t count against their mobile data, because they don’t even have e-mail and this is the only way they communicate with people, etc.), people don’t even think about where all this infrastructure comes from. It’s just “the internet”, and it exists with no particular origin or nationality like the air they breathe or the rain that falls from the sky.

Re:Facebook’s ties to India’s ruling party complicate its fi... by actuator on Saturday August 29, 2020 @04:56PM (#24319376)
I don't think this would be true just for developing world. Till the whole Tiktok-Trump thing started, did teens using Tiktok even knew where the owner was from. It has an English name, English language localization.
Re:Facebook’s ties to India’s ruling party complicate its fi... by jakelazaroff on Saturday August 29, 2020 @05:31PM (#24319574)
This is a specious argument. Facebook already takes an active role in shaping India's political landscape, via algorithmic promotion of posts.
Re:Facebook’s ties to India’s ruling party complicate its fi... by ashleshbiradar on Saturday August 29, 2020 @09:35AM (#24315969)
Indian Population doesn't take digital world seriously, and majority have no digital literacy, so it is difficult for that to happen.
Re:Facebook’s ties to India’s ruling party complicate its fi... by newen on Saturday August 29, 2020 @09:52AM (#24316102)
Hard to take this comment seriously in a country where about 50% have access to the internet, very likely 100% of influential people have access to the internet, and very likely 100% of people are 1 degree of separation from someone who has access to the internet.
Re:Facebook’s ties to India’s ruling party complicate its fi... by tsjq on Saturday August 29, 2020 @09:59AM (#24316149)
I would interpret ashleshbiradar's point :

>Indian Population doesn't take digital world seriously,

as: Indian population do not think nor understand deeper, father enough to foresee these risks.

Re:Facebook’s ties to India’s ruling party complicate its fi... by ffpip on Saturday August 29, 2020 @12:19PM (#24317166)
They don't take it seriously. Just the fact that everybody is online doesn't mean they know how to navigate the internet. Many are there for porn, or shitty memes
Re:Facebook’s ties to India’s ruling party complicate its fi... by newen on Saturday August 29, 2020 @04:21PM (#24319141)
It’s not that different from any other country. Only a small fraction of people from any country cares about what’s actually going on in the intersection of politics and the internet.
Re:Facebook’s ties to India’s ruling party complicate its fi... by edge17 on Saturday August 29, 2020 @10:17AM (#24316262)
This is true even for the American population
Re:Facebook’s ties to India’s ruling party complicate its fi... by im3w1l on Saturday August 29, 2020 @11:06AM (#24316569)
It's easier for Facebook to donate to "charities" that smears its enemies as on home turf.
Re:Facebook’s ties to India’s ruling party complicate its fi... by sbmthakur on Sunday August 30, 2020 @02:31AM (#24321777)
Yes, and it doesn't go well. Twitter(India) was summoned by a parliamentary panel when a group accused them of being biased against right-wing accounts.
Re:Facebook’s ties to India’s ruling party complicate its fi... by vkou on Saturday August 29, 2020 @03:22PM (#24318738)
Facebook is no stranger to picking political winners and losers. In 2016, it seems to have bet the farm on a Trump victory (By being, and then continuing to be incredibly lax on enforcing its rules against his account.)

It knows which side its bread is buttered, and is not going to rock the boat against a sitting president.