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Re:Google is apparently taking down all/most Fediverse apps ... by vorpalhex on Friday August 28, 2020 @11:29AM (#24306023)
Reddit recently dramatically revised their moderation policy and has generally been banning a lot of subs. Reddit very much wants to be a profitable business, and has no problem elimiting non-profitable subreddits.

"When your content is too cancerous for church, maybe the issue isn't the church".

Feel free to replace church with whatever is appropriate to your situation, but there have always been censors and there will always be people who resist the censors. The censors have acted against homosexuals, trans folk, hippies, anti-war demonstrators and many others who we no longer see fit to censor today and I will continue to be in the camp of people who work to thwart the censors.

Re:Google is apparently taking down all/most Fediverse apps ... by agentdrtran on Friday August 28, 2020 @11:39AM (#24306133)
This site listes Parler and Voat which have rampant, unchecked antisemitism and racism. I would love to see a non-censorious site that takes hate speech seriously but they don't seem to exist for some reason...
Re:Google is apparently taking down all/most Fediverse apps ... by sneak on Friday August 28, 2020 @01:15PM (#24307401)
You can’t be non-censorious and also take down hate speech, if that’s what you mean by “takes hate speech seriously”.

You’re either a censor or you’re not. If you want a censored platform, say it; if you want an uncensored site, say that.

Re:Google is apparently taking down all/most Fediverse apps ... by mschuster91 on Friday August 28, 2020 @11:51AM (#24306331)
The thing is, any service that offers a "censorship-free" alternative will instantly attract mostly by those whose content is garbage for everyone else: usually it's pedophiles until the operators get a couple not-so-nice letters or a police raid and then at least introduce modest moderation, and then come Nazis, antisemites and conspiracy myth peddlers.

And said hate peddlers then complain that they don't have the reach they enjoyed on Twitter, Youtube and Facebook... well d'oh. Turns out one who is not a Nazi, a journalist reporting about them, or an antifa activist collecting information wants to spend their free time on a platform dominated by Nazis.

Re:Google is apparently taking down all/most Fediverse apps ... by josephcsible on Friday August 28, 2020 @01:44PM (#24307767)
> usually it's pedophiles until the operators get a couple not-so-nice letters or a police raid and then at least introduce modest moderation

You're describing illegal content. Nobody is objecting to taking that down. Everyone else is talking about censoring legal content.

Re:Google is apparently taking down all/most Fediverse apps ... by askafriend on Friday August 28, 2020 @02:59PM (#24308700)
Last time I checked, Voat was a bunch of people letting the n-word rip in every comment like they're 10yo and discovered a bad word for the first time.

There was very little sign of intelligence. I had no urge to go back.

Re:Google is apparently taking down all/most Fediverse apps ... by mschuster91 on Saturday August 29, 2020 @08:46PM (#24320454)
Hitler salutes, calling for gassing Jews, or "out with migrants" have been illegal in Germany since 1945 - for obvious reasons, one might add. That is illegal content under German laws, but "muh free speech!!!11" for Americans.
Re:Google is apparently taking down all/most Fediverse apps ... by josephcsible on Sunday August 30, 2020 @02:42PM (#24324905)
Let me clarify: by "illegal", I meant "illegal in the jurisdiction where it's being hosted", not "illegal anywhere on the planet".
Re:Google is apparently taking down all/most Fediverse apps ... by chapium on Friday August 28, 2020 @12:50PM (#24307073)
Even so, OP still has a point. Reddit is pretty lenient as far as content is concerned.
Re:Google is apparently taking down all/most Fediverse apps ... by RonanTheGrey on Friday August 28, 2020 @04:28PM (#24309563)
This is a tricky problem even to define, because there's "Reddit" which is the owners and paid moderators, then there is "reddit" which is the universe of its subreddits and its unpaid, unaccountable moderators.

For example, it's been well known for awhile that if you subscribe to any of the men's rights subs, you are auto-banned from several of the feminism ones (including TwoXChromosomes). That kind of thing certainly isn't lenient but also isn't under Reddit's control.

Re:Google is apparently taking down all/most Fediverse apps ... by saithir on Saturday August 29, 2020 @03:37AM (#24314418)
Just a slight correction - nobody knows what subs you subscribe to on Reddit, it all works by looking at you commenting in these "wrong" subs.

It does not matter what the content of the comment was, of course. What matters is the fact you left the bubble and interacted with a different one, you traitorous scum.

Re:Google is apparently taking down all/most Fediverse apps ... by RonanTheGrey on Saturday August 29, 2020 @08:30PM (#24320393)
Correct, thanks for that. And, zing.