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Re:Wind and solar are cheaper than thought, admits UK govern... by rsynnott on Thursday August 27, 2020 @09:08PM (#24300416)
> Slavery, for instance, was the most efficient means of agriculture for thousands of years. We changed it, somewhat ironically, by replacing it with mechanisation, driven by fossile fuels.

Eh? Almost nowhere transitioned directly from slavery to mechanisation. Not serfdom, even. Heavy mechanisation of agriculture was a 20th century thing.

Re:Wind and solar are cheaper than thought, admits UK govern... by choeger on Friday August 28, 2020 @06:40AM (#24303364)
Right. But before that mechanisation, slavery still would have been the most efficient means of production.
Re:Wind and solar are cheaper than thought, admits UK govern... by rsynnott on Friday August 28, 2020 @12:41PM (#24306932)
What makes you believe this? I don't think there's actually much evidence for it in the recent past (previous 300 years, say). Part of the reason that the British Empire was able to get rid of it with minimal fuss in the early 19th century was that it was no longer considered economically viable, and was already in a natural decline in many places.

Most of the resistance to the abolition of slavery in most places was social; it was an upheaval in the way things were done. "GDP will drop" was not, as far as I know, a major concern, nor did it generally happen.

Re:Wind and solar are cheaper than thought, admits UK govern... by TT3351 on Friday August 28, 2020 @12:18PM (#24306702)
Why do you think this? It adds additional, real costs ranging from the need to finance extensive population controls (with the ensuing social unrest) and an unreliable workforce prone to running away.
Re:Wind and solar are cheaper than thought, admits UK govern... by choeger on Friday August 28, 2020 @05:46PM (#24310387)
Mostly because of the seasonality of work. If I own farmland and want to harvest wheat, I need my workforce only in spring and Autumn. But then I need them 25/8, if you get what I am saying. Buying this kind of labor on a fair market is definitelyire expensive than just "owning" it.