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Re:FEMA Spends More Preparing for Terrorism Than Hurricanes by Retric on Thursday August 27, 2020 @04:17PM (#24298153)
If you’re looking at the excess deaths after Maria then you need to do the same thing for 9/11. By one estimate 221 policemen died as a result of medical issues from 9/11 which don’t make the official figures based on initial deaths. Dust inhalation etc very much killed people only indirectly involved on 9/11. Thus, any kind of apples to apples comparison of either direct or direct + indirect deaths put 9/11 as a significantly more deadly event.

PS: Also that extrapolation on death rates for Maria is extremely questionable as it’s been rising in Porto Rico for years. The increase from 2013 to 2014 is larger than the increase for 2016 to either 2017 or 2018. https://www.statista.com/statistics/580903/death-rate-in-pue... You can assume the only thing bad that happened was a hurricane, but the data really doesn’t support that.

Re:FEMA Spends More Preparing for Terrorism Than Hurricanes by jcranmer on Thursday August 27, 2020 @05:15PM (#24298760)
You've lost sight of your own argument in the weeds of specific numbers here.

The broader point I'm making is this: hurricanes in the SE US and the Caribbean are, to a large degree "expected" disasters. As such they can be planned for, and damage can be minimized. And, I believe what you want to say is that they aren't all that "bad" anymore because of proper disaster preparation.

I would agree that hurricanes shouldn't be all that devastating in effect. But the data shows, quite convincingly IMHO, that we aren't doing as good as we could be doing in actually preparing for them.

Re:FEMA Spends More Preparing for Terrorism Than Hurricanes by Retric on Thursday August 27, 2020 @08:44PM (#24300316)
My point has nothing to do with what we should be doing just what FEMA should be doing. They have a very important but also very specific role. Other organizations are supposed to prevent levees from overtopping, keep buildings standing, etc. FEMA is there for redundancy so that such instances are mitigated after the fact.

When it comes to hurricanes that equates to selecting evacuation routes and locations to shelter the storm etc. If needed they may help create such shelters, but that stuff really seems to be working well. What happens after the storm is largely a question of how well other organizations have done their job. Aka what percentage of homes are habitable translates into how many people FEMA needs to find shelter for.

However, that last bit is a real question. Do we ramp up FEMA’s ability to build temerity houses or reduce the need for such temporary houses? I think it’s clear FEMA could do a much better job in disaster aftermath, but for hurricanes I think that’s largely solving the wrong problem.