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Re:Wind and solar are cheaper than thought, admits UK govern... by raverbashing on Thursday August 27, 2020 @02:15PM (#24296723)
Pumping water up is very inefficient
Re:Wind and solar are cheaper than thought, admits UK govern... by gamegoblin on Thursday August 27, 2020 @02:40PM (#24297055)
Pumped-storage hydro is the most efficient large-scale energy storage mechanism. 70-80% round-trip efficiency.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pumped-storage_hydroelectricit...

Re:Wind and solar are cheaper than thought, admits UK govern... by raverbashing on Thursday August 27, 2020 @03:55PM (#24297913)
I stand corrected
Re:Wind and solar are cheaper than thought, admits UK govern... by ascorbic on Thursday August 27, 2020 @02:39PM (#24297041)
Pumped hydro has an efficiency of around 80%, which is similar to lithium ion batteries. They also have massive capacity. The downside is that there aren't many places where they can be built.
Re:Wind and solar are cheaper than thought, admits UK govern... by im3w1l on Thursday August 27, 2020 @03:42PM (#24297774)
What if we dammed the Mediterranean?
Re:Wind and solar are cheaper than thought, admits UK govern... by etimberg on Thursday August 27, 2020 @08:22PM (#24300188)
Funny enough that idea was proposed in the 1920s https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantropa
Re:Wind and solar are cheaper than thought, admits UK govern... by braythwayt on Thursday August 27, 2020 @02:42PM (#24297077)
Very.

However, nobody told the sun that, so it keeps heating up the seas, evaporating their water, and letting the resulting moisture drift until it gets pushed up into cold air by some land obstruction like a mountain range...

"Pumping" the water uphill in this manner is very inefficient, but like all legacy technologies, we're stuck with it until we can invent a replacement ;-)

Re:Wind and solar are cheaper than thought, admits UK govern... by 2YwaZHXV on Thursday August 27, 2020 @03:02PM (#24297331)
While not quite as big as other pumped storage systems this is one system that is looking to avoid the exposed area and dependence on natural reservoirs: https://heindl-energy.com/