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Re:TikTok, Trump, and the Future of Open Source Surveillance by take_a_breath on Wednesday August 26, 2020 @01:23PM (#24284727)
==The CCP certainly makes this distinction.==

Growing up in the US, I’m 36, we used to celebrate how we didn’t do un-democratic things like the CCP. Now, we seem to use them as an excuse to justify un-democratic actions.

Re:TikTok, Trump, and the Future of Open Source Surveillance by biddit on Wednesday August 26, 2020 @01:38PM (#24284952)
That the USA doesn’t do undemocratic things is a bit of primary-school brainwashing if you look our international policy, interventionism, and decidedly undemocratic laws that have been created and enforced in this country since its very inception. (Voting rights, regulations, asset forfeiture, racist zoning laws, etc)
Re:TikTok, Trump, and the Future of Open Source Surveillance by take_a_breath on Wednesday August 26, 2020 @04:56PM (#24287177)
The US has surely done undemocratic things, that’s not my point. I never remember hearing the justification that “they are just as bad.”
Re:TikTok, Trump, and the Future of Open Source Surveillance by microcolonel on Wednesday August 26, 2020 @02:37PM (#24285715)
American progress invented the vocabulary you are using to denounce it.
Re:TikTok, Trump, and the Future of Open Source Surveillance by bassman9000 on Wednesday August 26, 2020 @03:01PM (#24285976)
That's a pretty big brush. Explain what is undemocratic on defending the US from a CCP dragnet.
Re:TikTok, Trump, and the Future of Open Source Surveillance by take_a_breath on Wednesday August 26, 2020 @03:57PM (#24286582)
It’s more about the pliable reasoning than the actual action. That said, in this case, it is the government actively manipulating the “free market” through regulations.
Re:TikTok, Trump, and the Future of Open Source Surveillance by bassman9000 on Wednesday August 26, 2020 @08:14PM (#24288807)
The RNC and DNC warn against it

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/10/politics/dnc-warning-tiktok/i...

The House voted a 336-71 to bar usage on government-issued devices

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/20/house-tiktok-federa...

Seems to me there's strong, bipartisan backing.

Re:TikTok, Trump, and the Future of Open Source Surveillance by take_a_breath on Thursday August 27, 2020 @03:08PM (#24297388)
Is warning about using a product or blocking government officials from using it the same as the President unilaterally forcing them to be sold?