It's not intended to attack you. I am trying to tell you I know from long experience that someone arguing the way you are arguing is someone who isn't really interested in my point of view. You want studies and even if I come up with studies, it will somehow never be enough because of who I am and why I hold the opinions I hold.

I came back to say "I don't see this discussion going good places." That was intended to be a courtesy to let you know I'm sure your interest is sincere but I'm not someone in a position to "convince" you.

You and I see it differently. I'm not going to pretend that I think you are right. But I'm not someone with any credibility.

I didn't want to just give you the silent treatment. That seemed rude to me, but perhaps would have been wiser.

For reasons unrelated to you and this discussion, I am wishing I had never heard of Hacker News and that fact is probably making it difficult for me to not sound screechy no matter how hard I try today. You will need to excuse me, but I just cannot continue this discussion.