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Re:The wildest insurance fraud scheme in Texas by refurb on Tuesday August 25, 2020 @11:53AM (#24272596)
I thought it odd that the insurance paid out a set value. I always thought it was “insurance pays value of what you lost” and that was determined after the loss.

So the fraud is really misrepresenting what you lost, not insuring it for a set value when you buy the policy.

Re:The wildest insurance fraud scheme in Texas by sokoloff on Tuesday August 25, 2020 @01:39PM (#24273855)
Collector car insurance and airplane insurance is typically written on an "agreed value" basis, where the insurer agrees at policy issuance that the car/airplane is worth $X if declared a total loss. We had a collector car insured through Hagerty that was hit by a red-light runner. They were amazing to deal with and paid the agreed value (minus the value of the crashed chassis that we bought back from them) within just a few days and went after the at-fault driver's insurance without us having to hassle with anything.

Airplanes and collector cars do not have a readily available source of "comps" to determine value and in both cases, the cost to recreate a given condition is typically higher than the value of that car/airplane in the open market. I can have an airplane that is "worth" $250K to me, that I could only sell for $200K, but that would cost $300K or more to recreate exactly by starting with an available airplane and re-customizing the avionics and airframe mods exactly. In such a case, I can probably get a policy written for any agreed value as low as I want (at the risk that I'd get cut a check for that amount and have no airplane in the event of a loss) and pretty close to $300K.